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Arizona's largest ancestry groups

Interesting data on ancestry and nationality. The biggest nationality in Arizona is German, according to the US Census Ancestry Data:

http://www.euro-americans.blogspot.com/2013/05/arizonas-largest-ancestry-groups-in-2010.html

For some strange reason, the US Census bureau doesn't include Hispanic groups in "Ancestry", rather that is considered and "Origin". I'm sure if that was included, the results would look somewhat different.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:56:54 GMT
ENERGY SAFETY IS PART OF KEEPING OUR HOMES SAFE

ENERGY SAFETY IS PART OF KEEPING OUR HOMES SAFE

 The month of June is dedicated to home safety.  Safety in our homes is important to us all and the communities in which we live.   Learn about and practice energy safety while enjoying the comforts and conveniences brought to your home by natural gas and electric service. . It’s as easy as one, two, and three: 

 ONE… TEACH THE BASICS OF ENERGY AND ENERGY SAFETY TO YOUR FAMILY! Learning about natural gas and electricity is the first step toward keeping yourself, your friends and family, and the community safe. Energy safety requires that you learn to: 

  • RECOGNIZE an energy emergency.  Know that natural gas smells like rotten eggs and that a downed power line is dangerous.
  • REACT quickly to an energy emergency.  Leave the area immediately and do not return until you are certain it is safe or you are told you may do so by an emergency official.
  • REPORT energy emergencies promptly.  In the event of a gas emergency, call 480-644-4277 or 911.  If you see an electric emergency, call 480-644-2266 or call 911.

 TWO… PRACTICE ENERGY SAFETY DAILY!

  • Follow manufacturer instructions for the care and use of gas and electric appliances.
  • For gas appliances, look for the blue flame which indicates fuel is burning efficiently.
  • Keep the areas around gas/electric appliances clean & unblocked to allow for proper air flow and avoid tripping hazards.
  • Never store household chemicals or combustible materials near gas appliances.
  • Don’t forget… if you suspect a gas emergency such as a rotten egg odor, REACT AND REPORT!
  • Always call 811 before digging to have underground utilities located.
  • Water and electricity don’t mix.   Don’t use electric appliances near water or when you are wet.

                   

THREE… JUST IN CASE, HAVE A PLAN! Despite all your energy safety efforts, there are steps you should take to prepare for a possible emergency including:

  • Install smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors in your home and check batteries frequently.
  • Make an escape map that includes two exits out of every room and pick a meeting place outside.
  • Practice safety drills for getting the family out of the house quickly.
  • Make sure there is at least one multipurpose fire extinguisher in your home and learn how to use it.
  • Review energy and home safety tips regularly with ALL family members.

Visit www.mesaaz.gov/energy for more information.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:10:18 GMT
Jodi Arias: When tornadoes of traumatizing life events come ripping through one's capacity for recall


At a time when  the young woman defendant Jodi Arias is about to speak in her own defense, abandoned by her attorneys and by witnesses who would have spoken in her defense but suddenly withdrew for threats of retaliation, and facing the possibility of being put to death, I feel compelled to offer my own personal experience on how traumatizing life events can obliterate one’s recollections.


Now 74 years old, with three earned degrees and seven degrees of misery, multiple surgeries,  strokes, and heart attacks behind me,  fighting daily to stay above medical circumstances that have taken the lives of many persons younger than myself,   I reflect on the tragic events  that remain as open wounds after more than four decades,  events at a time when I was a young minister who had known nothing but a life of dedication to the Lord and the service of the ministry.


It has been amnesia from shock out of the period of being raped and dislodged from a normal life when I was in the terrible throes of disability after losing my wife and family. I wound up in a hospital and an infirmary at a notable school,  and there I was, left at the mercy of a doctor who kept me there for 13 days for a migraine headache. During that time he aimed at seducing me and getting me into his office where he forced himself into me with his large phallus, compelling to lie prone on a gurney for what he claimed was an anal exam I needed for my prostate (strange because I have never prostate problems even to this day). It was while he had me in his office that he told me from his medical knowledge how I could take my own life without any detection possible of the means used to do it.  Also taking me to his home from time to time, feeding his wife breakfast, then coming downstairs to seduce me on the couch. Chasing me around from place to place, even to an island off the Atlantic Coast that his wife’s ancestors helped found, even getting into the wedding line of my marriage to my second wife.  I had no idea I was that attractive, though I was chosen as one of three in New York City to be a model and centerfold.  


Who is this person, and why has he been covering all this up?  What happened to his wife?  Suddenly I learned she had died, and he never even told me, and I was supposed to be his special friend.   I went out to eat with her and this doctor.  Not long before, and she seemed perfectly healthy to me. What happened to the young man who was at the infirmary who suddenly was dead?  What happened to other students who had fallings out with him because of inappropriate behavior at the infirmary? 


Somehow I felt used and abused because he wanted $35,000.00 to add on a medical room at the infirmary. He knew because of the professional closeness I had inherited over a million dollars.  I was a student, doing my work and trying to keep up a ministry, travelling back and forth. He even visited my home, and reached out to try to seduce me again and again both in hotels, and boarding places in at the school.  He abused me by telling me I did wrong by getting involved with a woman and bringing more children into the world.   Very difficult circumstances for me;  these traumatizing events led me to a period of amnesia about these happenings. It is only in the wake of my recent, and intensive 7 ½ hour long deep brain surgery that memories have started to return, causing me to reflect more deeply and lucidly about these events.  


When I was raped in the infirmary at the school, I screamed and hollered to where it was heard up and down the hallways of the infirmary. His secretary, a German woman, embarrassed me because he didn’t want it to be known what he was doing. As I have shared he had me face down on the gurney.  Covered it up with his professional and church connections. My life was being prevailed upon by this monstrous abuse I was subject to, and which I didn’t know what to do with.  


I can relate to what this Jodi Arias is going through.  Though what she did was horrible,  I do believe that the trauma of being abused can eradicate the memory of events  of all that transpires around you, and you go on as if none of it had happened.   I’ve tried to keep in touch with this doctor to play along, allowing him to believe I was interested in him, for the hope of eventually  dealing with and exposing him over what happened to me;   I never have had an explanation of what happened.  As to why it has taken so long to come to grips with these happenings:  the pain was such that I kept these things buried so I could carry on with my life without being inundated with them – at the same time they  have remained open wounds in need of healing and resolution.   As I write this doctor is travelling with his lover of 25 years to their summer home.  


I am  very distraught because I hate to see this young woman Jodi Arias put to death and nobody will speak on her behalf about her circumstances.   She certainly made a terrible mistake in her life,  but  could not remember any of it; something that goes on when religion, faith, and sexual  abuse are mixed through psychological and physical force.


I have had  memories return to me in the nights of the events surrounding what I was personally subject to.  I am hoping that something will dissolve this thing from my mind so I don’t have to be tortured any more.


I don’t want to see another person wrongfully taken to be put to death because she lost her mind and sense of direction.  Why there aren’t more people coming to her defense, not for the wrong she did, but because of her  telling what she went through, her making a mistake and not being able to remember what went on. This fellow was a Mormon; I don’t have much respect for the Mormon church. We have that fellow down in Texas who was  put away for taking on children.  Now we hear of a young boy who was being chased by this Travis Alexander, and his  running from woman to woman, causing rage and trauma in the life of a woman who was used to be living monogamously, then suddenly being forcibly subject to a different faith and sexual abuse.   


As to what I went through personally as a vulnerable young man and student, I can’t understand why I have had to be subject to it all, except there be a reason to speak out at this time on behalf of this vulnerable young woman, an ingénue whose heart and life had been all but derailed by the double trauma of being forced into a different religion and being forced upon sexually, even while I cope with my own unresolved  traumas and losses. 


Who is this doctor that sought to take advantage of me and forced himself upon me, a young minister reeling from the trauma of divorce and the forcible loss of my children?; who was this Travis Alexander that enticed a young, artistically gifted woman into a faith not her own, and forced her into the trauma of sexual abuse?  The questions remained unanswered, and the mysteries remain unresolved.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 21 May 2013 21:53:45 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Yes, and it's so unlike him to be so quiet for so long.  You know, he used to behave as though he though there was no such thing as bad publicity.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 18 May 2013 02:03:44 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

I feel sorry for him as it must be an agonizing, lengthy ordeal, not to mention embarrassing. Costly too!

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 May 2013 22:01:19 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Looks like the case is dragging on month by month.  If you have the right kind of converter on your computer, you can read the minute entries.  One of these days I'm going to get to work on reinstalling mine.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 May 2013 21:30:22 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Any updates?

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 May 2013 17:59:07 GMT
nearly time to vote in AJ

alls im saying is its nearing the time to vote.. vote to keep the status quo OLD barn yard 1813 mentality or modern up date thinking and VISION... or remain OLD DECAY DULL DEAD END AJ.. one who LEFt AJ for better pay n position desires for his old  job back.. smithers.. HELL NO..  waldron the walpite was on camera and in the papers  during the 07 recall berating the council n demanding... since he WAS FIRED... and questionable HOW he got back in... due to the mayors own words WE DONT WANT TO HAVE TO TRAIN ANYONE ON 'HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS" ... 2 seats are up for grabs 2 or 3.. really... gail held a friends of gail meeting ONLY  so her agenda is personal not CITY WIDE for the bettewr of AJ NO but for the better of gail..

 

NOW AJ is drier than a old tortilla.. no vision no action onloy foisted western design ONLY by barker whom micro manages n fails to remain on commetties she agreed to be on... left that seat empty after she got her seat back... HINT shes for her self ONLOY...  NO vision for JA only depend on snowbirds that reality kicks in are croaking left n right not able to come to Aj.. HAS the council even entertained ideas of self suffenciy?? generate city wide revenue??? not depend on snowbirds only??? NO.. NO vision NO jobs NO revenue growth just do it OUR WAY OR ELSE./..... this time vote for VISIONARIES thinkers out side the box who desire to see Aj flourish hnot retreat back n be stuck in the 1813 mentality when its 2013.. VISION .. Christa Rizzy n Jeff Strubble HAVE THAT VISION barker hasnt got it waldron the walpite dont smithyers is out for smithyers only .. ITS sad AJ CAN flourish but the OLD guard DOESNT WANT THAT.. gtime to sedn the old guard to the HOME FOR OLD THINKERS I dont want Aj to be the nexgt dust bowsl of az.. a city that NOTHING EVER ATAKES PLACE OR HAPPENDS IN.. a few sponsored activities dont count.. IM talking  revenue building local news doing remotes in and at drawing tourist dfollars to local mom n pop shops not into the COFFIERS of the FEW the city backs.. but to the business owners Aj is no agaisnt.. even doing a update on thier property to draw in a bigger crowd.. they DENY.. ANTI BUSINESS WE NEED LEADERS WHO HAVE THE VISION FOR NOT AGAISNT AJ.. OH AND BABS.. THE PORTOLAS ARE DONE N OVER WIHT.. MOVE ON... GET A BIGGER PICTURE OF BE VOTED OUT..... AND U THINK YOURE GONNA BE MAYOR??? AS IF....   Aj doesnt need decaying minds NO vision it desperatly needs VISION LIFE..  all you see is DUST DECAY old empty buildings homes.. WHERES THE VISIONARIES AT??? CHRISRA RIZZY AND JEFF STRUBBLE IS where its at...

 

seriously folks.. Aj needs visionaries not old creakers hell bent on getting their civil servant pension ONLY n thats ALl they seem to care about.....  if NO ONE  CARES about whats needed in aj during this voting season n lets the old guard back in.. YOU ALL DESERVE THE CITY WIDE DECAY DESOLATION it deserves n massive evacuation out of Aj into a city thats modern alive that wants NEW businesses to come in  and to see old ones remodle n become more.. mom n pop shops that arent  shut down. or abandoned lots over grown wiht trees weeds trash.. because the city has NO balls to slap the owerns a heffty fine no warning letters.. ..  no one in the old guard CARES.. its all about MONEY pensions micromanaging thier way OR ELSE... tryiung to shut you up by sendng oiut detectives.. ..... VOTE whats right for Aj not whats DECAYING CEREWEKING N SMDELLS OF DEPENDS... life,.. vision... jobs.. attractions events... .. or not care n leave it as it is n see how long aj remains till they are bankrupted by the LACK of vision..... Clearly the signs are therre.......... MY 2 votes are for RIZZY and  STRUBBLE.. Aj deserves a chance to come alive not be stuck for ever in 1813 foisted western design ONLY vote your heart... cionsider whats been said.. vision over decay...see if Aj makes the decision to come alive or vacate..........I have NEVEDR been political ever but i came to aj n seen what COULD BE... seen the other cities rake in bucks hold events street fairs events drawin celebs n tv shows n then theres AJ... AS DEAD AS A DOOR NAIL... your vote will change that or have it remain a NON EXISTANT city.. or a city of art life vision ... VOTE FOR THE BEST FOR AJ not save my pension n power please... for that will get Aj no where but bankruptcy decay dead end...... if i had the funds when insalacos time is up ID RUN FOR MAYOR... cause my eyes arent OLD I hyave a vision for aj... id have serdy as my vm for he too has the vision and Aj would be ripped out of the 1813 mentality n lack of vision n take Aj into the modern age...  one day perhaps that will be me in the cfenter chair.. ajs first oopenly gay mayor FOR AJ... bringing in jobs events making aj the hub of activity.. sadlt as it is now NOTHING COMES TO AJ..... much less wants to since the city council except mr serdy IS agaisnt anything NEW entering into JA.... for thaqt reason alone we need visionaries.. not old trolls bent on their wauy or else.. idf i ran on.. deal wiht it at least I have a passion for thios city if the others dont............vote for vision not decay RIZZY,.... STRUBBLE... period....

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 May 2013 09:50:40 GMT
RIGHT ON!

It's been 5 years. At what point does your messiah take responsibility for this: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ ?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 09 May 2013 22:51:12 GMT
April is National Safe Digging Month

Shouldn't every month be safe digging month? ;)

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 09 May 2013 22:48:49 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Any news on Elliott E. Fisher, Apache Junction, AZ and the pending felony charge against him?

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 06 May 2013 23:24:42 GMT
A Safety Message from the City of Mesa's Energy Resources Department - Natural Gas Pipelines in Your Community

Natural Gas Pipelines in Your Community

 Natural gas provides clean, economic, reliable, and efficient energy to homes, schools, and businesses.  Natural gas pipelines are one of the safest methods of energy transportation; however, damage to pipelines can occur.  Since most natural gas pipelines are buried underground, you may not be aware that you live or work close to a pipeline.  Pipelines are often marked by above ground signs to provide an indication of their presence, the product carried, and the contact information of the pipeline operator. These signs are typically located along pipeline right-of-ways and at road and railroad crossings.

 As part of Mesa's on-going Safety Program, pipelines are inspected regularly for damages or leaks.  By learning that natural gas pipelines are present and being able to recognize and react to a natural gas leak early, you can help to keep natural gas pipelines safe for everyone.

 A natural gas leak may be present if you...

  • Smell: An odor similar to rotten eggs.
  • Hear: An unusual hissing sound coming from a pipeline, appliance, or a natural gas meter.
  • See: Unusual changes to soil, dead or dying vegetation.

If you suspect a natural gas leak, call the City of Mesa at (480) 644-4277 (GASS) or call 911. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 06 May 2013 19:10:43 GMT
just seen on tv a COWBOY FEST

Is there really a cowboy fest going on in AJ?  When and where cuz I want to come.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:13:19 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Would it be safe to assume he is on some sort of work leave?  Now might be a good time for him to start that bus service to AJ he always talked about. It could be a very profitable venture for him. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:11:37 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

I've tried checking the state board's meeting minutes a couple of times, but haven't been able to find anything.

Public access court records are sketchy, but there is still activity on the case...

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:07:30 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Bump

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:32:52 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

What's the latest on the Fisher felony charge?  Anybody heard anything?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:13:57 GMT
just seen on tv a COWBOY FEST

a musical fest where theres REVENUE that will be collected and mom n pop shops getting a NEEDED BOOST.. what is happening in Aj to draw tourists n pump into the local economy?? anything?? OH NO see barker hates MODERN ANYTHING but 1813 ideas n look. inslacaco HATES nnything NEW to try to come in to AJ.. waldron the walpite n rogers wilson AHVE NO VISION WHAT SO EVER PERIOD.. no one sees a opertunity that COULD BE held in Aj ot raise revenue n give the local mom n pop shgops OPEN N THRIVING. oh ho see when we VOTE in may remember INSALCCO CARES NOT BARKER CARES NOT WALDRON CARES NOT ROGERS CARES NOT WILSON CARES NOT they have ABSOLUTLY NO VISION WHAT SO EVER for this city THEY ARE ALL FOCUSED ON THIER CIVIL SERVANT PENSIONS... not about what COULD be coming to AJ ot bolster the comunity  but what THEY can ruel over n have THIER OWN PERSONAL AGENDAS made out.. Aj has no ANYTHING happening here.. if its gonna happen hte INFORMATION officer at the city of commerce should have POSTERS ADS OUT at least 2 weeks before the event n PROMOTIONS for it.. from what ive seen THAT PERSON FAILS BIG TIME.. seems NO one gives a rats all in AJ... 

 

what Im getting at is VISION the mayor doenst ewant NO NEW councilmembers he  desires the OLD DECAYED DEAD END RETIRED councilmembers to be palced in so NO OPERSONAL AGENDA IS LOST..  he has NO vision n clearly it shows.. QUOTE we dont want to have to TRAIN anyone on HOW the "SYSTEM" works..  then WHY TAKE A CLI class youll NEVER GET IN.. See Aj is heading into summer n NOTHING will take place cause the  ELDERLY SET who has NO VISION much less a  IDEA they will STOMP  on ANY new business that tries to come into j sine AJ IS SEEN AS ANTI BUSINESS ANTI GROWTH.. news flash barker the portolas are DEAD N GONE ... care to fiocus on the NOEW n MODERN??/ pity you wont..  SO i will say this jeff  strubble n christa rizzi are a GOD SEND to the council when election time comes THEY have the VISION.. and smitherson.. please he DUMPED AJ for a suprevision osition n pay NOW he wants back in.. NEXT.... its NOT in the forecast jr.. .. Aj seriously needs LIFE n no one on the counil except for mr serdy whose ideas always get slapped down by the good ol boys .. who desire to run aj into the ground..

 

NOTHING NEW NOTHINGG NEW NOTHING NEW,, wake up AJ this town is DIEING... with out a VISION the people parrish... same for AJ.. OLD DEAD END THINKING WOBNT BRING IN ANYTGHING NEEDED OR NEW INTO J but drive it away or beat it into the gorund by waldron the walpite n YES he was apart of the TEAM  in 07 recall and I was sitting in front seen n heard it all so WALDRON can lie.. THE VIDEO FOOTAGE N SIGNS PAPER TRAILS CANT... folks wake up Aj is on the brink of GERITOL N DEPEBNDS if we dont ACt n vote for VISIONS.. the mayor has none barker is stuck in the 1800s nothing MODERN she wants.. waldron was fired BY the council for going behind thier backs..  n THEY played a cherrade to brinbg him back WHY FEAR OF ANYTHING NEW.. wilsons ONLY FOR THE HORSEIES... GAIL WHOS KNOWS but her  FUNNY ways during a called meeting of SUPPORTERS ONLY that was to be a OPEN community meetng clearly WAS NOT... remember PERSONAL AGENDAS..  me serdy the ONLY one up there wiht a vision so beaten down that he sits n just looks frazzeld.. im sure he wonders HOW THE HELL they get re elected each time when they DO NOTHING BUT DENY DENY DENY any businbess that has a desire to coem to aj n BUILD hello JOBS> REVENUE... not personal agends..

 

THIS alone should spark voters into openibng thier eyes.. IF aj goes back to what it was before the elections MOVE aj is NO LONGER WORTH IT for the VISION IS DEAD... such potiential this city has but the leaders are more interested in MICRO MANAGING N SHAKING HANDS WIHT A FAKE SMILE personal agends rather that WHAT AJ NEEED... vote the trolls out vot in VISION shake up the seats.. lord knows the current council except mr serdy does VOTE VISION not OLD CRONIESwhos bent on personal agendas... I wont vote3 for no OLD TROLL.. Aj deserves a VISION... christa and jeff..  OUST the OLD DECREPID DECAY mind set. vote for a vision...  get the word out Aj can not go forward when its being held backwards by personal agendas n NO VISION..  AJ must survive not fall back to 1813 mind set

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:25:45 GMT
RIGHT ON!

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:50:17 GMT
Re:Gold Canyon Golf Resort - Please be a good neighbor - Turn your music down

You would think a business would understand this.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:17:53 GMT
Gold Canyon Golf Resort - Please be a good neighbor - Turn your music down

Pinal County Ordinance prohibits music that can be heard 125' beyond property line. Two of the last 3 weekends I have had to listen to your music and am more than 900' from your property. I stopped by this evening, tying to do the right thing and be a good neighbor. Yes, you dialed it down some, but are still in violation. i will work with you for a bit longer if you will work with your neighbors as it would be the preferred method of correcting your violations. Your cooperation is appreciated. 

You can view Pinal County noise ordinance at the following link

http://pinalcountyaz.gov/Departments/Sheriff/Forms/Documents/NoiseOrdinance.pdf

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:47:46 GMT
Blame The Media!

A huge AMEN to an extraordinary summary of Amereica/s feelings.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:21:39 GMT
CAMPAIGN SIGN VANDALISM IS ILLEGAL

Thank You azsunshine! I'm trying ..

Since the Independent wrote the article,  the vandalism has stopped and I have had more people ask for signs in their yard than what can keep up with ... An artist friend of mine and several other people contacted me about helping clean up and paint over the vandalized signs .. 

God bless my friend Vel, she's been approached and questioned several times from AJPD and concerned citizens while painting the signs .. 

I sure appreciate all the support, it really means a lot  .. Thank You!! ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 04 Apr 2013 05:57:14 GMT
April is National Safe Digging Month

April is National Safe Digging Month

Getting ready to do an outdoor project that involves digging? Before starting that project, before putting a shovel to dirt, learn about and practice safe digging.

 Utilities may be buried only a few inches underground making them easy to hit even during shallow digging projects. When utility lines are hit, injuries, property damage, and inconvenient outages can result in the responsible party being held financially responsible. To safeguard your family, your property, your community, the availability and reliability of utilities, CALL 811 (Arizona Blue Stake) AT LEAST TWO BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE EVERY DIGGING PROJECT-IT’S FREE AND IT’S THE LAW!

 Failure to call 811 before digging results in an estimated 40% of all U.S. digging damages. Digging safely is easy: call 811 before you dig, wait for utilities to be located and marked, know your responsibilities for customer-owned facilities, respect the marked lines by making sure you can see them throughout the course of the project, and always dig with care around the marks.

 Save time and money, keep your family and our neighborhood's safe, and help to avoid disruptions to utility services. Safe digging is everyone’s responsibility. Do your part. Know what’s below, call 811 before you dig. Visit www.mesaaz.gov/energy for more information.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:11:55 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

It makes me happy that you're not letting this stop you from enjoying the good things in life. Easter egg hunts are priceless. And the kids will probably remember them for many years to come. I'm so glad your nasty neighbors can't stop you from being happy and enjoying your home.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:49:37 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Excellent!  Hoping you all have a wonderful day!

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:18:56 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Yep, the kids will all be here looking for eggsSmile

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:16:16 GMT
Seniors in East Valley. Seniors Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything (SWINE)

I think you may be right.  There are som many extreme positions it is hard to find a balanced person.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:10:21 GMT
Seniors in East Valley. Seniors Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything (SWINE)

I don't think it's just seniors - and I also don't think that the targets are exclusive to anything that isn't extremely right wing.  It is the Age of Indignance, if you ask me.  It's all the rage now to be offended, or to be offensive. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:05:35 GMT
Seniors in East Valley. Seniors Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything (SWINE)

I have noticed that there are many seniors in East Valley who are irritated by almost everything that isn't extremely right wing.  These Seniors are Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything and SWINE is a good acronym.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 29 Mar 2013 23:45:43 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Hope you're not planning to have the kids' friends over for an Easter Egg hunt. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 27 Mar 2013 04:13:40 GMT
CAMPAIGN SIGN VANDALISM IS ILLEGAL

Saw your vandaled sign on the Trail.  Really childish and mean for someone to do that.  I never saw the article by the Barkers...hopefully the AJPD looks into the vandalism.

The best revenge is to win!

Good luck Christa!!

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:55:29 GMT
CAMPAIGN SIGN VANDALISM IS ILLEGAL

Our little friend was at it again last night .. They broke off and stole the flags and little sayings "who does this " that I added to the vandalized signs .. One sign was torn completely down .. This is not a kid it's an adult .. An adult who also target people with my signs in there yards ... One person was left a nasty note with Barkers slandering editorial on their front door .. That's not a simple case of vandalism, it's a hate crime and AJPD should take notice ..

If I remember correctly something similar was done to Joe Severs when he ran for council ..

Ask yourself this ... Who doesn't want Christa Rizzi in office and why? ..   Cool

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:11:05 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I was thinking that too- eventually the fire dept will get fed up with being called out to nothing more than a bbq. Its a sad day when a person can't even grill their dinner without being harrassed and having the fire dept called on them. What a crock.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 23 Mar 2013 01:32:36 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

And I'm guessing that AJFD does not have a high tolerance level for frivolous calls.  The time is approaching when they will be busy with real fires.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:35:33 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Yes, absolutey. Document everything. Make a paper trail.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:45:25 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I echo Christa's advice.  Document every visit.  And talk about it.  People need to know that this is going on.  I am still in shock that city government is apparently sanctioning this behavior. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:03:35 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

The firefighters couldn't believe it. I knew this was going to happen. We won't even be able to breathe without being accused of something. It's sad when somebody has nothing better to do than harass their neighbors.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:51:59 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

What was the response of the fire fighters? .... Too bad the caller can't be back charged ... I'd keep a log of every incident, date, time, a brief of what happened and names of who showed up  .... 

They think they will wear you down ... Stay strong !! ..

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:30:15 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Wow!!! What next? Ever since this secret neighborhood meeting I have had code enforcement visit my home to check out an unlicensed day care I was supposedly running out of my house. Then last night we got a visit from the AJ Fire Department. They got a complaint that we were burning our trash. We were grilling our dinner. When is somebody going to take this seriously???? Our tax dollars are paying for these visits. Yes, I live in a lovely neighborhood.

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 22 Mar 2013 05:46:05 GMT
CAMPAIGN SIGN VANDALISM IS ILLEGAL

And besides, it could backfire. 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:28:08 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Yes, you know who I am.  Funny you mention Dale's poetry.  I was thinking to myself the other day, "Hmmm, didn't he used to write poems?"

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:22:06 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Yes MrsK, now that I know who you are, "the piano player". You played the piano to the song, "Never Seen Blue Like That" at my husband's memorial service. I heard you and the "singer" play that song a year before my husband died and knew immediately that I wanted it played at his funeral. We all knew he was dying. It's funny, my daughter found a poem on Sunday that he had written in 1998 when another neighbor (in this same neighborhood) was being harrassed. His words are true today and I believe he wanted us to find this to help us carry on. Here it is:

NEIGHBORS

Yes, I live in my own little world

In a wooden house that's my oyster's pearl

But I am a rebel in this simple town

Because to my neighbors I won't bow down

 

No, I won't bow down to their way of life

I will make my stand with my girls and wife

On this island full of snakes and sand

I will live in peace but protect my land

 

I will stay here till my dying days

On my island surrounded by castaways

I will bide my time mixing work and play

And pretend my neighbors moved away

Written by:  Dale Francis Leeb  8-5-98

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:40:53 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

That's what I'm wondering too- who might be next? The little old ladies with old metal carports? Possibly my grandparents? Possibly people who have a hard time getting out in to the heat and cleaning up their yards? WHO might be the next target?

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:09:54 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

 I think MrsKskid may be on to something ... Why not go talk to your neighbor if these things were truely happening ... I just can't imagine treating my neighbors like this ....

So, who's next ?! ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:47:01 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

Why are you asking Obama for a recount?  Such an idiot.  Obama cannot order a recount.  The states, by constituion, control their voting.  Any state can order a recount of its votes.  The Obama administration can't. 

Such idiocy should be prohibited on these sites.  Is there no adult supervision here???

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:04:04 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

In regards to the letter that encourages neighbors to take pictures and such- If someone is standing in the street or on a city sidewalk (which, I dont think there are any sidewalks in your neighborhood) they are technically allowed to take pictures of what ever they want. HOWEVER if anyone comes on to your property (that is trespassing) and is taking pictures of you, your property, or your kids/grandkids, THAT IS HARRASSMENT. Call 911. Make a police report. File an order of restraint. That will make it so they will have to stay at least 300 feet away from your property boundaries, and away from you and your family. I know that won't completely stop the problem, but at least you will have some sence of privacy on your own property.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:54:36 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

It seems to me that they are trying to label you as a "nuisance residence". And it also seems to me that there is an agenda at play here. I know someone who's very knowledgable about things like this. He says, once they label you as a nuisance, its very similar as a slum and blight situation. And it paves the way for the small people, like city council members, to take it higher, like to the county officials. If the county gets involved, they will come out to your home and start snooping. Looking for anything at all that is not up to code- and they are the ones who can really make a problem for you.

Its very clear to me whats going on here. Someone wants your property.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:12:47 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I am glad you have at least one good neighbor.  I am also a piano player.  "I Never Saw Blue Like That."

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:04:24 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I haven't heard from the city about my letter to Patrick Brenner. Did hear from the City Attorney, but the questions I want answered were not addressed. Talked to another neighbor who went to the meeting with the intentions of meeting new people and learning something new. She was appalled that the meeting was totally about me. She is a very shy, soft spoken woman so didn't say anything. Learned a lot. She is the closest neighbor to me and has never had a problem with us in the last 30 years.

MrsK, I have no clue who you are, I keep racking my brain trying to think of the girls I had that year. Sooo long ago. Thank you for the support.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:44:03 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Have you heard back from anyone in the city? ....

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:26:26 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

Nobody is looking at a recount.  Romney LOST. Period.  People just don't like his policies.  Until the Republican Party finds a way to include Latinos (who are natural born Republicans--antiabortion, hard working, family oriented and generally not looking to live on handouts) and sjeds itself of gun manufacturers and the welfare-for-the-rich mentality, there will not be any Republican President for the foreseeable future.  The Republican core--Rich, old white folks and Rednecks are minorities and shrinking.  However, the upside is that the sequester will likely affect education.  Having more ignorant rednecks could boost the Party.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:21:31 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

The Obama Administrataion has advised that it will not interfere with state laws.  Part of this is practical.  In a state that the majority of voteres has voted to legalize marijuana, it would be virtually impossible to get a conviction from a jury.  They refer to that as "jury nullification" whereby juries would effectively nullify the federal law.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:08:47 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Not necessarily true.  There are a lot of anti-legalization prople, and Romney had so many other disasters (guns, immigration, welfare for the rich etc.) that nothing would help.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:05:49 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

kenjames makes some good points.  The current evildoers who sell pot will go to something else for a while.  However, when Holland legalized all drugs, their crime rate went down.  There are still many drug related problems there, but the benefits far outweighed the costs.  Currently wse have the equivalient of Prohibition.  We spend billions of dollars on federal, state, and local drug enforcement and get nothing in return.  Legalize it  and tax it to provide the money to pay for the problems and we can use our law enforcement people for more useful things.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:03:50 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

not obviously lmore expensive.  The current illegal system creates enormous profits for the suppliers because the supply is constrained. We spend kazillions on drug enforcement and get nothing in return.  We have Prohibiition all over again, except the names arent Italian.  In fact, if we also legalized cocaine, we would stabilize three countries, US, Columbia and Mexico.  They are made unstable by our demand for cocaine and making it illegal.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:59:19 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I don't think you could possibly have handled it any better (or any differently).  What kind of city officials send letters to people without investigating, without talking to the residents being accused?  Parties?  Drugs?  What?  You were my daughter's third grade teacher, BTW.  You go, girl!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:50:07 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Yes that's what happened in my neighborhood. I've been there since the eighties when my late husband and I bought the place. It was our little paradise until these people started moving in and trying to change everything.

Here's the letter I sent Mr. Brenner:

Feb. 26, 2013

Dear Mr. Brenner, This letter is regarding the North Tepee/Cortez Neighborhood Outreach Meeting which was held on Jan. 23, 2013 at Councilwoman Gail Evans’ house.                                                         On February 20, 2013, at approximately 2pm, you and I had a telephone conversation. During that conversation I handed the phone to my fiancé to speak on my behalf. We had asked you to answer a few questions. At the time you had no answers so I will ask the questions again in written form.

1.Please provide dates and publication means for this meeting. We have tried to find this answer ourselves by researching past Apache Junction newspapers and the Apache Junction web site, but couldn’t find anything published about this meeting. We even asked the City Attorney but he could not answer this question.

2.This meeting was called “North Cortez/Tepee Neighborhood Meeting”.  Please provide me with the boundaries of this “neighborhood”. On the phone you said there were no actual boundaries. My question is: How are you able to invite the “neighborhood” if you are unable to define the “neighborhood”? What you really did was hold a city sponsored ambush of one or 2 homeowners.

3.You also stated that you printed up flyers as invitations to this meeting. You had no answer as to whom they were delivered to, as all the “neighbors” were not invited. I would not consider this a neighborhood meeting if not all the neighbors were invited.

4.In your letter dated Jan. 29, 2013 which was hand put in my mailbox, you are teaching or encouraging the neighbors the correct way to “STALK or TARGET” their fellow neighbor, (ME) so I can be prosecuted. Please advise if you and the City of Apache Junction are willing to accept responsibility if a confrontation occurs; due to a “neighbor” being on the property photographing and/or videotaping my young grandchildren that reside there. Also, you are encouraging neighbors to spy and trespass on private property.

In your MEMORANDUM to the Mayor and City Council dated 12/13/2013, You stated: “A frequent “Party House”” “Bonfires” “Loud music with a microphone PA system in use” “Parties that go on till 4:00 am” “Information about City services and programs I’m sure would be appreciated but the focus will be on the above.” Mr. Brenner, in your words let’s focus on the above. A frequent “Party House” While I am the home owner, my daughter and her family live in the house. As I am working out of town, I am there most weekends. I will admit they frequently do have friends over. If you check with the police department you will find that they have been called only once in the last year for noise and they found no problems. They were called 4 or 5 times that night. We were in compliance and no warnings were given.
Bonfires Yes, we do have warming fires outside. At times we listen to music as we relax and enjoy family and friends that come to visit. Never have we burned our garbage. We burn wood. If there was a stench in the air, it was not from us. If I remember right, a neighbor across the street admitted to another neighbor that she was burning old molded hay. That may be where the “stench” came from. I believe the fire department was called because of the fire she was burning. Loud Music with a microphone PA system in use This did happen in the beginning of Dec. We were doing a karaoke night for my grandson’s birthday. When I left at 10:00 pm, there had been no complaints by neighbors. After I heard my home was being accused of playing the PA system until 4:00 am, I contacted the AJPD to inquire about any complaints from that night/early morning. They verified to me that there were none.
Parties that go on till 4:00am As there are no police reports or complaints verifying this, this should not be an issue.                                                                                                                                              Mr. Brenner, you knew in December of 2012 that these accusations were targeting my house located at 2455 E. Tepee St. and yet you failed to contact me directly about these concerns. Nor did you make sure I was notified of this Neighborhood Partnership Meeting so that I might defend and/or address these so called problems with my neighbors. You, as the Community Relations Manager, should make sure these meetings are fair. You job is not to pit one neighbor against another, which is exactly what you have done. You had more than a month to notify me of this meeting, yet you chose not to. I have now received threats and warnings from my so called neighbors. See attached letter and envelope that was hand put into my mail box on February 19, 2013.                                                                                                       Mr. Brenner, there were also complaints that were not in you memorandum. These I wish to address: Drug paraphernalia found in neighbor’s yard The neighbor that I assume complained about this has twin step daughters who have a record of DUI’s for illegal drugs and paraphernalia.

Throwing trash over neighbor’s fences I can assure you this never happened. Yes, with the strong winds that invade the area from time to time, a trash barrel may get blown over. It has happened to many of us. While we do try to clean it up in a timely manner, we cannot trespass on others property. If this has happened to any of my neighbors, I sincerely apologize.  

In closing, I have never done anything purposely to annoy or irritate my neighbors. I bought my property in July 1982. At that time, I had very few neighbors. In the last 10 years, many people have moved into the neighborhood, building big beautiful homes. I believe mine and many other older homes in the area are not up to their standards. I also believe the ulterior motive is to force the lower and middle class out of my neighborhood, so as not to devalue their fancy homes. This is my take on what has transpired in my neighborhood. A few neighbors had complaints ranging from 6 months to 6 years ago. They threw them into a big pot. They called it stew and fed it to you. There are no police reports, zoning violations, or any facts to back up these false accusations.

My last question: Isn’t it a conflict of interest to have a city council member as the neighborhood organizer of these so called “Neighborhood Partnership Meetings”?                                                           I would appreciate a response to my questions in a timely matter.

Thank you,

Judy Leeb 2455 E. Tepee St. Apache Junction, AZ 85119

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:04:16 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I have to say, I have lived in this community for a very long time.  Like, over 44 years.  My parents moved out here when I was a kid, and when I hear about things like this I am reminded why I moved into Pinal County outside the limits of this fair city.

If I were you, I would be looking for a lawyer who would be willing to take them on.  This is outrageous.  City personnel should know better than to put their names on these kinds of letters. 

I am just speechless.  I shouldn't be surprised, though.  This is what happens when a bunch of people decide that they want to change an area that has been rural for decades, until a bunch of yahoos moved out here from the city and built expensive houses. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:06 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Rather spineless to type "your neighbors" but no one actually signed the "get out or else" letter... People seem to have all sorts of nerve when they hide behind a computer screen or what have you..

Frankly I'm shocked that Gail would hold such a meeting at her home and only a week after her husband passed ...

I also find it disturbing that your neighbors handle concerns in such an underhanded, sneaky manner ...

Wonder if this ties in with targeting people that have my signs in their yards ... Someone certainly didn't like my sign at the mailbox of this residence ... 

I understand the Barkers recently had a little eighty something year old lady take down a carport ....

This is how the city will be run, with an iron fist huh? ..

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:25:20 GMT
VACATE AJ the current council is back

Well squirl it's not over yet... While Evans did get elected, we have to go to a run off May 21st for the last two seats ..

Here's the results  -http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/AZ/Pinal/45703/115328/Web01/en/summary.html

Apparently a bag of ballots got left outside of Cactus Canyon Jr. High and had to be retrieved ... Surprised 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:11:19 GMT
VACATE AJ the current council is back

VACATE AJ its not worth in vesting or speaking seems the voters are as well stuck in a rut RAN by barker insalcco  waldron the walpite gail n now smitherson aj IS OFFICALLY A LOST CAUSE th4ey city will NEVER GROW expand  create JOBS revenue just more micromanaging and good ole boy politics n AGENDAS rampant..  thiose who ran  for the council had a good run came close.  but AJ is NOT worth it anymore.. the town is decaying  and the council gives 6 sheets to the wind about it its all about AGENDAS.. politics QUELL THE WXPANSION quell abny creativity quell any businessmans expansion or would like to... ITS OVER...  OR IS IT?????...

 Recall is the option  as well as a massive camping to  wake up the voters to VISION  not the same OLD western enough  crap.. AJ i  pity you  you chose poorly.. that or youre too OLD to have any vision for this city and No im NOT fisher  im yuban 16 i stood up for the council in 07.. suppoirted them.. I  do NOT  now.. the past 2 ytears  n recently  seems the mayor n waldron the walpite tore into a business owner who wanted to expand n bring in somehting not new but they  idea was they both placed the nail in the coffin on the busioness owners idea... berated him..  what I should have let happen was to have the team n walp come into aj  perhaps Then aj would have had growth n expansion and direction.. not micromanaging  and feigning we dont want to hire ANY cli grads we want OLD councilmembers of the past  cause they KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.. (insalacos words..._ That shows you how much he cares about Aj... OH WAIT they only care about thier civil servant pension n PAY CHECKS... nothing else. once more Aj kudos for having NO vision or thee capacity to move forward remembering its 2013 not 1813........ get ready Aj the MASS EXODUS is coming soon

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:31:01 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Here are links that make it easier to read the letters.

This is the letter Mr. Brenner sent people who attended the meeting at councilmember Gail Evans home and a threat from my neighbors. Both were stapled together and hand placed in my mailbox.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:12:50 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Here is the letter Mr. Brenner sent people attending the meeting at counilmember Gail Evans home. It instructs them ho to harass my family for unfounded allegations. No one ever approached me about these allegations. (easier to read if you click toggle full screen mode, bottom right icon)

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:26:07 GMT
Re:Letter from Apache Junction City Council candidate Clark L. Smithson

Do you still have that letter?  I think you should post it on every public web site related to this town.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:48:03 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

You are being asked to consider relocating?  Kids making noise?  Wow.  Do private property owners no longer have the right to enjoy their property and let their kids/grandkids play on it? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:42:11 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

I also question the open meeting laws. I was targeted because of a lot of false accusations. Now I am being asked to consider relocatiing because my grandchildrens' noise is a nuisance. According to a letter hand put in my mailbox, my neighbors are asked to send written testimony/complaints to their neighborhood organizer, Gail Evans. I feel this is a total conflict of interest to have a councilwoman as the organizer. especially when I live right across the street from her and she never had the nerve to contact me personally. Instead they held a secret meeting. I am posting this because I don't want other people to have to go through what I am going through. It is a nightmare.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:26:08 GMT
Re:Letter from Apache Junction City Council candidate Clark L. Smithson

This all sounds good, but some people forget about the middle class citizens who have worked hard and helped build this community. I for one have worked and supported this community for over 30 years. I was told, "it is about time you thought about relocating" in a letter hand put in my mailbox. It was signed, "Your neighbors". This was after a so called "Neighborhood Outreach Meeting" which was held at a councilwoman's house, encouraged by the city, which I wasn't invited to. This is not the Apache Junction that I raised my children in. Now my grandchildren live in my house and I am being told they are a nuisance because of the noise they make. Is this what you want AJ,  new money coming in and trying to push the middle man out?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:28:00 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

It's refreshing!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:30:55 GMT
Candidate Endorsements

Just thought I share ..  

 

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:40:51 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

It is rather strange to be having an election with Elliot no where around .. Sealed

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:33:30 GMT
Letter from Apache Junction City Council candidate Clark L. Smithson

In my experience, as a working artist, unions are scum - they attempted to prevent me from working on a jobsite because I was not a member of their union - I am an ARTIST! The result?  A union employee had to sit and DO NOTHING for the entire job, and h\got paid scale for DOING NOTHING, in order for my crew of ARTISTS to be allowed to install a mural.

Unions are run by scumbags that have destroyed the work ethic of this country! All one has to do is look atthe reliability of GM and Chrysler products (relibaility and customer satisfaction of both dropped substatantially after the bailout by hard-working taxpayers of these union scum looking for a free ride)>

If I had not already cast my vote, you still would have lost it!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 02:38:58 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Mr. F is being awfully quiet for a guy who used to do just about anything to get attention. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 02:00:10 GMT
Letter from Apache Junction City Council candidate Clark L. Smithson

Mr. Smithson with your experience and vision for our future you are just what Apache Junction needs!  Good luck on Tuesday!

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:17:04 GMT
Letter from Apache Junction City Council candidate Clark L. Smithson

Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Apache Junction/Gold Canyon Independent newspaper. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."


Quality future development needs vision and experienced leadership

We are in a unique position to develop something extraordinary; different from any other community in Arizona.  We must assure that future development (residential, recreational and commercial) take advantage of the Superstition Mountains and other surrounding outdoor offerings. 

An important part of assuring quality development should be to encourage well trained, committed tradespeople and use of local businesses and residents where possible.

In recognition of this commitment, I am pleased that I have received endorsements from the Political Action Committees of both the Arizona Pipe Trades U. A. Local Union 649 and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers 640 (IBEW 640).  I am pleased to receive these endorsements as recognition that I am committed to fair treatment of workers and quality construction and development in Apache Junction.   

One of the major factors in deciding to run again for the A. J. City Council is my concern for quality future development in the city.  Good planning, high standards, and a commitment to excellence will help take full advantage of what A. J. has to offer. 

Apache Junction has been making significant progress in using the economic downturn to prepare for the next upturn in the economy.  Planning has included zoning changes to improve the look and viability of Apache Trail, working for downtown development that will change the way we look at Apache Junction, and preserving the large lots and open space in the north part of the city while planning for future high quality development south of the freeway.  I want to be a part of continuing the planning process and making it happen.

I look forward to using my experience as city planner, city manager, service on the Apache Junction City Council and the Pinal County Board of Supervisors to help A. J. take advantage of the unusual qualities and opportunities we have to offer. 

Clark L. Smithson

Apache Junction


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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:55:49 GMT
Traffic on Gary Rd. in Queen Creek

Does anyone know if there are any future plans to improve and

widen Gray Rd. in Queen Creek, One lane each direction is not adequate to handle the traffic flow and continues to worsen with new home building. I have witnessed accidents at the intersection of Gary and Empire.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:19:22 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Do you know what the purpose of the meeting was, or what the results were?

I thought that elected officials were supposed to avoid even the appearance of violating the open meeting law.  Wasn't there some hullaballoo a few years ago, about a group of council members having coffee together at the VI?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 08 Mar 2013 02:15:41 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Any news regarding Fischer?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:59:55 GMT
Re:OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

N. Cortez/Tepee area

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:57:15 GMT
OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

Where is this neighborhood?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:57:01 GMT
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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:02:38 GMT
OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors

CRONISM  in Aj politics.. im suprizes IS IT WESTERN ENOUGH BARKER wasnt there  MICRO MANAGING ... so a SELECT few get told.. not the PUBLIC at large.. see a VOTE for the OLD GUARD means more BS for Aj.. its EGOS and AGENDAS not how can we bring needed commerce- jobs -and renevue INTO AJ.. nope noithing about that but that its our livelyhood that PAY CHECK  that tells us were council members.. NOT caring about the COMMUNITY at large.. a vote for the OLD guard will keep Aj in the mind set of 1813 NOT 2013... tell the old guard GET THE HOOK vote MODERN vote NEW vote for LIFE not OLD STODDGY CRONIEYISN.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:55:22 GMT
OPEN SEASON - Councilwoman Targets Neighbors
Neighborhood Partnership & Outreach Meeting
 
Recently a neighborhood outreach program meeting was held in my neighborhood. This meeting was held at Council Woman Gail Evans’ house on Jan. 23, 2013. In attendance were 3 other council members, the mayor, the city attorney, community relations manager, assistant police chief, and just a handful of neighbors.  Invitations were  printed at the city’s expense and hand delivered to only selected neighbors. Needless to say, I was not invited as well as many other neighbors. When I questioned Mr. Brenner, (Community Relations Manager) as to what the neighborhood boundaries were, he did not know. When I questioned him about notifying the neighborhood, he responded that he printed out 50 flyers and gave them to Council Woman Gail Evans to distribute.  Is this how our city is being run? A council person holding a city function at her home, and allowing only select people to attend? Remember this was a NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETING. She could have easily gotten the mailing addresses to all residents and mailed invitations to everyone, assuming she knew the neighborhood boundaries. A meeting where only the people who agree with you, or are likeminded are invited, the others ignored is tantamount to holding city sponsored secret meetings.         
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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 03 Mar 2013 10:13:54 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:17:09 GMT
Re:elections will soon be held in AJ

"Bad boys bad boys" whatcha gonna do when the elections come for you

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:36:12 GMT
Re:elections will soon be held in AJ

Omg, elections coming up and no mention of his name :-/

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:13:44 GMT
Re:elections will soon be held in AJ

So how is  Elliot?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:57:12 GMT
elections will soon be held in AJ

WellWell here we are yet again.. vote for me and "ILL SVE AJ" yeah weve heard that line before. seems that its the OLD GUARD SO desperate to HOLD on to power n PAY  that will SAY n tell stories of candidates that are running againts the OLD OLD GUARD.. Seems the mayor n BARKER you know her shes the one whose constantly FOISTING WESTERN DESIGN ONLY nothing modern n yet MICROMANAGES everyone.. LIKE in a POWER TRIP.. well....... Seems we have good candidates this time and OLD OLD GUARD  only interests in the council seats is the PAY  -funny how waldron the walpite got in to  his appt!!!!!!!! when he was FIRED before from the council n HIS LIES of not being on the TEAM  of 07 -proof old man theres PLENTY OF PROOF IOF.. pity pity . OH the Mayor teling all that he doesnt want ANOY ONE NEW cause wed have to TRAIN.... them..  on HOW it works... (odd the CLI grads deserve a chance OH WAIT the MAYOR doesnt want ANYTHING NEW to come into Aj or make waves for the OLD GUARDS)

 

 Seems that the paper- AJ NEWS is slighting a few candidates well WHOM owns the paper ??.. BARKER whose partial owner....??? BARKER funny that  dont you think. HMMMMMMMMM...  THE OLD COUNCIL with one exception mr serdy The current council  has NO ambition NO goals NO vision for aj.. just MAINTAIN THE OLD  pay the OLD... keep the OLD GUARD on the seats n in PAY ONLY... i stood against the walpites in the refcall of 07  only to  find out more youve got to be kidding  circumstances... I DO NOT SUPPORT ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL EXCEPT JEFF SERDY.. hes got the balls n the drive to see this city become alive- jobs /revenue ACVTIVITY. but is constantly SLAPPED DOWN BY the mayor, barker, waldron, gail, wilson... after a while it works on a persons  drive..

BUT NO jeff has ideas n HAS THE VISION FOR AJ -Barker, Insalaco. Waldrn, Wlson, Gail- DOES NOT n they try to discredit characters DITRY POLITICS.. only thinking of THIER PAY n PERKS n POWER  not about how Aj can rebuild. can be alive. vibrant. and allureing to businesses n comnpanies that CAN locater to aj providing JOBS.. no the OLD guard doesnt want that WHAT SO EVER.. They want OLD -decay- emptyness n YOUR VOTES will either say HELL NO U MUST GO or be OLD like they are n see Aj continually DECAY under thier adm..

The vote is clear.. VISION OUT OF THE BOX THINKERS /ALIVE- JOBS- REVENUE . Not decay n OLD GUARD... Remember its not 1813 BARKER, its 2013... A Mayor..... is more than a  FAKE SMILE N COLD HANDSHAJKE... What does Aj deserve.. OLD TROLLS or NEW VIBRANT LIFE.. remember when voting.. the OLD GUARD desperatly needs that PAY.. if thats the ONLY reason they stay on those seats n the power then AJ IS LOST.. VOTE VISIONARIES -OUT OF THE BOX THINKERS- NOT OLD CREAKERS stuck in the 1800's BARKER... Aj deserves better... 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:17:40 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

"This is another reason that you have to investigate everything that you read on CNN's web site. "

Please include Fox, MSNBC and the rest of the news organizations in your generalization of news organizations!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:39:34 GMT
Re:Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

The problem would be with wood chips or saw dust inside of the stables getting mixed in with the manure. Any type of wood product hinders growth.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:08:43 GMT
Re:Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

A little nibble on a tree I can see, eating enough of wood to have large quantities in the poop, I don't see it happening.  What kind of horses have you been around that have alot of wood in their poop?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:43:18 GMT
Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

Unless the manure is wood free, it does not work as well for fertilizer from what I understand.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:38:32 GMT
Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

Why not just add it to their arena and work it in?  Better to land on nice fluffy poop than hard dirt!

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 19 Feb 2013 23:44:25 GMT
Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

If the manure really is that big of problem, why not limit the problem.  How about limiting the number of horses inside the city?  That seems to be the real issue.

And I'm a resident and don't really care for the city to be known for that identity. I'd rather see it grow up and be an attractive place that draws people to it. Now if that includes horses and horse business, fine.  

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:45:20 GMT
Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

Well, I said horse community because compared to many other cities we have a lot of horse propertiies and because it seems the citizens want to have that identity ..

I knew the manure was an issue but not to what magnitude, until listening to SHA mebers, some being horse boarders .. Even though the manure can help the garbage break down apparently there is way more going to the dump than I ever realized .. I was rather surprised to hear how many horse owners could fill a forty yard dumpster in a few days or a week..one person gave an example of what one horse produces in a day and week ... If I remember correctly there was an issue a while back about people throwng it directly in their trash cans because technically its' "combustible" ...

Someone not very knowledgeable about large animals commented that the odor would be an issue .. I own burros ( so sweet) and actually it's not the manure that smells and attracts flies, it's the urine .. Manure can be processed in a way that it repells flies .. which could be another use ...

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:33:59 GMT
Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

I like the idea of the garden and the possibilities.  I don't like the attitude of the Mayor.  No wonder nothing ever changes in AJ.

I'm just wondering though why you referred to AJ as a horse community.  Is it because there are people with horses who live here or is that the identity AJ is going after?

And I'm also curious how much of an issue is the manure at the dump, really.  Other than costing people to dump it, I would think it's the last thing in the dump that you really have to worry about.  It's biodegradable and natural.  

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:16:57 GMT
Community Garden For AJ (dealing with manure/landfil concerns)

Superstition Horsmens Association recently held a City Council Candidate Forum. One of the questions asked was how will we assist the horse community with the manure going to the landfil. This is a growing concerned as it's costing residents a lot of money to take it to the landfil and it causing our landfil to fill up faster than it should be.

 Being a horse community I finding it disturbing that city leaders have not adressed this issue years ago ... I don't mean that as an attack on anyone but being a 17 yr. resident it's very frustrating to see the lack of progress in so many areas of our community ..

My answer was "a community garden!" ..  While this isn't a new concept and we've discussed this on newszap a few times before, its a very important issue to me ... I would really like to make this happen here ..

I've talked to a few people in the city about the land behind the multi gen and city complex being used for this purpose ... Now the Mayor completely disagreed and said "there's no way it could be done there because it's state land" .. 

I have a problem with new concepts or ideas being shut down right from the start .. This is narrowminded ... My perspective is let's start with a yes, talk about it and find a way to make it happen ...

Think about how awesome a real community garden ( not a feel good, publicity gaining replica) would be for Apache Junction... It would bring our youth together with older experienced farmers and we could be grow fresh fruits, vegetables, trees and flowers to supply our food bank, senior center, child day cares and a farmers market ...

It would be a great way to utilize the manure (which should not be wasted at the dump) and we could take this a few steps further ... One of the horsemen talked about trucking the manure out and selling it for compost.. .. This could also be done .. package, market and sell organic manure/compost ...

Also manure produces methane gas ... Seems there must be a way to use this for generating power .. We have an abundance, it's free, let's use it ...

And then we have the renewable energy ... Wind and solar power could also be done on site ... Apache Junction could really lead in this, creating interest, jobs and revenue! ...

...Think of the possibilites !! ..

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 17 Feb 2013 04:10:04 GMT
Night in the 40’s - Big Band Dance at Commemorative Air Force Arizona Wing, March 9, 201

"A NIGHT IN THE 40's"

Take a Sentimental Journey at one of the largest
Big Band Hangar Dance and WWII Musical Shows in the country
at the Commemorative Air Force Aviation Museum,

March 9, 2013

The Commemorative Air Force Aviation Museum (CAF), and presenting sponsors CareMore and Hensley and Company invite you to take a Sentimental Journey back to 1943 with “A Night in the 40s” Big Band Dance. This glamorous event is one of the largest Big Band Dances in the country. “A Night in the 40s” event features a WW II 1940’s Musical Show followed by a Big Band Orchestra playing sounds of the era to dancing men and women dressed in period styles - all in the shadow of the vintage B-17 WW II Flying Fortress bomber "Sentimental Journey"! 

Besides being a nostalgic journey back in time, “A Night in the 40’s” benefits a worthwhile cause — a fund raiser for the non-profit CAF Aviation Museum, located at 2017 N. Greenfield Rd at Mesa’s Falcon Field, NE corner of McKellips and Greenfield; The CAF is an organization dedicated to keeping aviation history alive for current and future generations.

"This is a great opportunity to recapture one of the most important and nostalgic times in our history," said Dave Dunton, Arizona Wing volunteer member and Dance Chairman.  “Events like these pay special tribute to all who fought for freedom during WW II and allow us to look back on our past.

"The generous support from our sponsors demonstrates that they take an interest in the efforts of community events like the Night in the 40’s Dance and helping an all-volunteer nonprofit organization like the Arizona Wing preserve our history for future generations. The Arizona Wing greatly appreciates the help from our sponsors". Night in the 40’s sponsors include CareMore, Hensley and Company, Southwest Airlines, AM 1230 KOY, Arizona Lindy Hop Society, Alpha Creations Awards and The Buffalo Chip Saloon and Steakhouse. 

“A Night in the 40’s” Big Band Dance will be held Saturday, March 9; doors open at 4:30pm. All participants are encouraged to come dressed in the style of the 40’s. Mark Jeffrey from AM 1230 KOY will be the Master of Ceremonies. A free swing dance lesson will be given by Steve Conrad of “Arizona Lindy Hop Society” at 4:45 to help you get ready to dance the night away! Entertainment begins at 5:30 p.m. with “Sing, Sing, Sing with a Swing”, a 1940’s Musical Show with singers and a professional set of piano, bass, saxophone and trumpet. At 7:30pm, swing time kicks in featuring the “Sonoran Swing Big Band Orchestra” playing favorite Big Band Music from the war years. There will also be a contest for the best-dressed 1940’s costume, a swing dance contest, and participants will have the opportunity to get their picture taken in front of the B-17 Sentimental Journey. 

Food and refreshments will be available for purchase at the event including a barbeque  plate catered by The Buffalo Chip Saloon and Steakhouse.  Tickets for “A Night in the 40’s” are $35 per person purchased in advance and $40 per person the day of the dance. Night in the 40’s Tickets can be purchased online at www.BigBandDance.com, or at the Commemorative Air Force Arizona Wing Aviation Museum, 2017 N. Greenfield Rd. 

The CAF Aviation Museum is an all-volunteer, non-profit organization supported only by membership dues, private donations and fund-raising events such as “A Night in the 40’s”. No government funding or support is provided. All admission fees and donations are fully tax deductible as the Commemorative Air Force Aviation Museum is approved under IRS code 501(c)(3).

For further information call (480) 924-1940 or visit the Night in the 40s website at www.BigBandDance.com. For additional information on the Commemorative Air Force Aviation Museum visit the website at www.azcaf.org.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:26:33 GMT
Safety Message from the City of Mesa's Energy Resouces Department - Important Notice Regarding Underground Buried Gas Lines

IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING UNDERGROUND BURIED GAS LINE

 The City of Mesa owns, operates and maintains the gas piping system up to, and including the meter found outside a home or business.  Piping from the gas meter to each gas appliance belongs to the property owner and it is their responsibility to maintain. This piping, much like the plumbing and electrical system, needs to be maintained.  This also includes the gas piping to any outdoor appliances such as barbeque grills or pool heaters. 

 In order to maintain the safest system possible and avoid any potential hazards, the City of Mesa encourages all customers to periodically inspect their piping for leaks and corrosion (rust).  If an unsafe condition is discovered and repairs are needed, customers should always call a professional for repairs. If you smell gas (rotten egg smell), hear the sound of escaping gas (hissing noise), or suspect a line break, leave the area and call 480-644-4277(GASS) or 911.

 The City of Mesa's highest priority is public safety.  Working together we can provide the safest and most reliable energy service for everyone.  For additional questions regarding customer piping, please visit our website at www.mesaaz.gov/energy or call the City of Mesa at 480-644-4552.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:57:20 GMT
Voyles fits right in at PC-likes to spend the money

Kind of like $$$ on the national level huh

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:28:25 GMT
Voyles fits right in at PC-likes to spend the money

Yes they were. It'll be interesting to see if they are happy with what they've asked for. Seems to be headed in the wrong direction already. $$$!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:34:07 GMT
Voyles fits right in at PC-likes to spend the money

The voters were heard in November!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:34:04 GMT
Voyles fits right in at PC-likes to spend the money

Wonder why they deny studboi1 has request to reorganize and then turn right around and approve voyles? voyles the fair haired child? Heaven help us! studboi1, whats up with that?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:34:38 GMT
Voyles fits right in at PC-likes to spend the money

Part of the crime fighting menage a trois, voyles, studboi1 and bobblehead chase. Our new conservative BOS has opened Pandoras Box I'm afraid.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:30:30 GMT
Voyles fits right in at PC-likes to spend the money

http://www.azcentral.com/community/pinal/articles/20130130pinal-county-supervisors-ok-million-sought-county-attorney.html

 

I wonder if Voyles tried to find ways to be more efficient on the money he had?  If throwing money at the problem was the answer, why elect him why not keep Walsh?

 

At least Harold Vangilder past president of the Western Pinal County Republican Club has it right:

“However, if the cost and burden of government goes up a single cent in our first time at the helm, then we will have collectively failed both our core principles and our voters,” Vangilder wrote. “To replace Democrat spenders with Republican spenders does us no honor, regardless of the case that may be made for the increase.”

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:39:56 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

Interesting argument, but lawyers are arguing points of law, not points of theology.  These are lawyers for the hospital, not lawyers for the church.  Big difference.  This is another reason that you have to investigate everything that you read on CNN's web site.  Either their reporters are unskilled, or they intentionally misrepresent the details.  Either way, it doesn't say much for their journalistic integrity.  In this case the plaintiff also lost the wrongful death suit in the matter of the wife's death on other points of law.  To sustain a wrongful death allegation, the plaintiff must prove negligence on the part of the medical provider.  This country does have a very inconsistent and schizoid view of who is entitled to rights and who isn't, even all the way to the Supreme Court. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:47:05 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

The Catholic church has finally settled the age old arguement of just when life begins.

 

Lawyers for Catholic hospital argue that a fetus is not a person

 

Life begins at conception, according to the Catholic Church, but in a wrongful death suit in Colorado, a Catholic health care company has argued just the opposite.

A fetus is not legally a person until it is born, the hospital's lawyers have claimed in its defense. And now it may be up to the state's Supreme Court to decide.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/us/colorado-fetus-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

 

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:39:00 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

I saw this original post on CNN and wasn't going to respond here because it really is quite an involved theological discussion.  After others jumped in I thought I might compose a response of my own, since I am by my own admission a theology geek.  However, when I saw this post from William Lane Craig, I thought I would post it here.  He reprints the original article for the convenience of his blog readers.

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/why-we-raised-our-kids-to-believe-in-god

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:46:06 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

And let's not forget what is far and away the biggest change that would come about from legalization... industrial hemp.

One of the most useful plants on the planet.

It's not just the alcohol, private prisons and drug cartel industries that are fighting legalization, it's also the HUGE Oil and textile lobbies as well.

Joe

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:46:15 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

That is impossible to say as there was no 'test group' nor are there any 'do-overs'.  i must say that we focused much more on right vs wrong and being strong humanitarians rather than fear of not going to heaven.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:06:03 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

GCR Do you think they'd have taken different life paths without the exposure to religion? ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:47:15 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

Both of my girls had a strong exposure to religion, in fact both attended private christian colleges

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:44:34 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

My husband and I were raised with parents similar to you and your wife. He never went to church, no one ever spoke of God, religion the Bible etc. until we met.. My parents were also the same, one catholic and one protestant .. As a young child we never went to church as a family, prayed or really talked about religious beliefs. I'd go to mass with my grandmother if I spent the night. I remember those services being really confusing. After my parents divorced (as a teen) I was forced to go to church with my mother and we went to every one out there.. I remember hating it .. lol  ...

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:15:22 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

Christa, I didn't perceive anythingnyou said as snarky :-)

My questions  were rhetorical in nature intended only to be thought provoking for all to enjoy

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:47:11 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

GCR - I wasn't intending to come off as right or wrong, I guess my humor unintendedly came off as "snarky"  ..

azsunshine - That's horrible ! .. My God (no pun intended) what is wrong with people! ... so where are these kids supposed to go? There's plenty of abusers out there to take them in !!  ...

tyranny - I don't believe in or follow religion. Religion is man made, that is the problem with it imo. I do believe Jesus walked this Earth and I do believe the Bible to be true. (I guess that can be considered a religion). I disagree with you, there are all sorts of believers/non believers. Not all non believers are ok with abortion ... I'm not ok with abortion, in fact I hate it but I feel women are responsible for making their own choice. No one should force their beliefs on others. I think if we follow one simple rule of loving one another the world would be a much better place.  

You didn't answer my question from my first response ... and I have another (strictly for the sake of conversation) .. Were you raised by believers/non believers and was there ever a time when you thought there was a God/higherpower? ...   

**hey newszap people I don't like the "no editing" thing here and can you please add spell check? .. Laughing

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:36:08 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

It doesn't need to come to confrontation. I like to keep it as a simple acceptance of opposing views, not a matter of who is right and who is wrong.  One's belief is a choice!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:40:24 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

Christa_Rizzi - "It's been my personal experience that non believers are quite intolerant of believers beliefs and that believers tend to accept others as they are"

Really?!

I would venture to say it is the exact opposite!

The believers have a real hard time with acceptance of others views.

Take abortion, believers cannot or will not accept a woman's right to choose.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:44:14 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

My wife and I have polar opposite views on religion and just celebrated our 32nd anniversary. I suppose we agree to disagree and are tolerant of personal choices and beliefs. Our opposing views have been just that, rather than an issue of conflict. Thank goodness for freedom of choice!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:10:25 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

I wish more parents were like you GCR!  My kids know of two families, one that already kicked the kid out of their family and one is considering it not because the kid was bad or on drugs...it was simply because the kid has chosen not to be a follower of a certain religion.  One kid did not want to go on a mission.  How sad.  If some church head honchos came to my door and started pressuring me about kicking my kid out of my family, it would be no question of what I would chose. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:58:15 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

I totally agree with 'unconditional love'. I have one child that is atheist and one that is a born again christian. Same parenting and different results. I love them both equally even though one obviously believes differently than I do. It makes no difference that they thinknor believe differently than I do and my point was that it makes no difference whichnside of the fence the parent is on and how the parent 'reacts'

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:14:45 GMT
Re:Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

GCR, I just thought I'd pose the question out of curiousity and for conversation. I have a daughter and an Uncle that are non believers. It's been my personal experience that non believers are quite intolerant of believers beliefs and that believers tend to accept others as they are ... Unfortunately children are often caught up in what adults force on them rather than simply being allowed to be a kid ...

My comment "How sad" stems from my personal feeling of not being able to image my life without God. At the age of 7 without any parental influence, I made a conscious choice, that I wanted God to be a part of my life. I see so many that live with no connection to our Father. They seem to have no purpose, no direction in life just muddling through. What I've often found is that these people have been deeply hurt at a young age andfeel like "God" wasn't there to help when they needed it ... 

The most important thing is that we love our children unconditionally and accept and them just as they are  ....

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:04:38 GMT
Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

Christa, why would any disbeliever that has a child become a believer act any differently than a believer that has a child that chooses to be a non-believer?  

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:35:19 GMT
Down Town AJ

Exciting news - The old Grand Hotel property has finally come out of bankruptcy and is now up for sale ... There are some interesting preliminary conceptual plans !! Sure would love to see a center for the arts, farmers market, window shops etc .. Anyway you cut it there's so much potential ...

(couldn't upload pdf here, I'll scan and post later) ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:45:16 GMT
Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

You have the right to raise your children as you chose.. That being said my personal opinion (which I assume you posted to get other opinions) -  How sad! .. 

If your child/children decide on their own to go against your ideals and believe in God or go to church, how will you react? ..

I usually avoid debates on this topic but I leave you with one thought .. If believers are wrong, we have nothing to lose ... If non believers are wrong, you have everything to lose .. just my opinion ..  Peace

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:52:15 GMT
Godless mom strikes a chord with parents

When my son was around 3 years old, he used to ask me a lot of questions about heaven. Where is it? How do people walk without a body? How will I find you? You know the questions that kids ask.

For over a year, I lied to him and made up stories that I didn’t believe about heaven. Like most parents, I love my child so much that I didn’t want him to be scared. I wanted him to feel safe and loved and full of hope. But the trade-off was that I would have to make stuff up, and I would have to brainwash him into believing stories that didn’t make sense, stories that I didn’t believe either.

One day he would know this, and he would not trust my judgment. He would know that I built an elaborate tale—not unlike the one we tell children about Santa—to explain the inconsistent and illogical legend of God.

And so I thought it was only right to be honest with my children. I am a non-believer, and for years I’ve been on the fringe in my community. As a blogger, though, I’ve found that there are many other parents out there like me. We are creating the next generation of kids, and there is a wave of young agnostics, atheists, free thinkers and humanists rising up through the ranks who will, hopefully, lower our nation’s religious fever.

Here are a few of the reasons why I am raising my children without God.

God is a bad parent and role model.

If God is our father, then he is not a good parent. Good parents don’t allow their children to inflict harm on others. Good people don’t stand by and watch horrible acts committed against innocent men, women and children. They don’t condone violence and abuse. “He has given us free will,” you say? Our children have free will, but we still step in and guide them.

God is not logical.

How many times have you heard, “Why did God allow this to happen?” And this: “It’s not for us to understand.” Translate: We don’t understand, so we will not think about it or deal with the issue. Take for example the senseless tragedy in Newtown. Rather than address the problem of guns in America, we defer responsibility to God. He had a reason. He wanted more angels. Only he knows why. We write poems saying that we told God to leave our schools. Now he’s making us pay the price. If there is a good, all-knowing, all-powerful God who loves his children, does it make sense that he would allow murders, child abuse, wars, brutal beatings, torture and millions of heinous acts to be committed throughout the history of mankind? Doesn’t this go against everything Christ taught us in the New Testament?

The question we should be asking is this: “Why did we allow this to happen?” How can we fix this? No imaginary person is going to give us the answers or tell us why. Only we have the ability to be logical and to problem solve, and we should not abdicate these responsibilities to “God” just because a topic is tough or uncomfortable to address.

God is not fair.

If God is fair, then why does he answer the silly prayers of some while allowing other, serious requests, to go unanswered? I have known people who pray that they can find money to buy new furniture. (Answered.) I have known people who pray to God to help them win a soccer match. (Answered.) Why are the prayers of parents with dying children not answered?

If God is fair, then why are some babies born with heart defects, autism, missing limbs or conjoined to another baby? Clearly, all men are not created equally. Why is a good man beaten senseless on the street while an evil man finds great wealth taking advantage of others? This is not fair. A game maker who allows luck to rule mankind’s existence has not created a fair game.

God does not protect the innocent.

He does not keep our children safe. As a society, we stand up and speak for those who cannot. We protect our little ones as much as possible. When a child is kidnapped, we work together to find the child. We do not tolerate abuse and neglect. Why can’t God, with all his powers of omnipotence, protect the innocent?

God is not present.

He is not here. Telling our children to love a person they cannot see, smell, touch or hear does not make sense. It means that we teach children to love an image, an image that lives only in their imaginations. What we teach them, in effect, is to love an idea that we have created, one that is based in our fears and our hopes.

God Does Not Teach Children to Be Good

A child should make moral choices for the right reasons. Telling him that he must behave because God is watching means that his morality will be externally focused rather than internally structured. It’s like telling a child to behave or Santa won’t bring presents. When we take God out of the picture, we place responsibility of doing the right thing onto the shoulders of our children. No, they won’t go to heaven or rule their own planets when they die, but they can sleep better at night. They will make their family proud. They will feel better about who they are. They will be decent people.

God Teaches Narcissism

“God has a plan for you.” Telling kids there is a big guy in the sky who has a special path for them makes children narcissistic; it makes them think the world is at their disposal and that, no matter what happens, it doesn’t really matter because God is in control. That gives kids a sense of false security and creates selfishness. “No matter what I do, God loves me and forgives me. He knows my purpose. I am special.” The irony is that, while we tell this story to our kids, other children are abused and murdered, starved and neglected. All part of God’s plan, right?

When we raise kids without God, we tell them the truth—we are no more special than the next creature. We are just a very, very small part of a big, big machine–whether that machine is nature or society–the influence we have is minuscule. The realization of our insignificance gives us a true sense of humbleness.

I understand why people need God. I understand why people need heaven. It is terrifying to think that we are all alone in this universe, that one day we—along with the children we love so much—will cease to exist. The idea of God and an afterlife gives many of us structure, community and hope.

I do not want religion to go away. I only want religion to be kept at home or in church where it belongs. It’s a personal effect, like a toothbrush or a pair of shoes. It’s not something to be used or worn by strangers. I want my children to be free not to believe and to know that our schools and our government will make decisions based on what is logical, just and fair—not on what they believe an imaginary God wants.

 

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-910282

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:26:57 GMT
Re:Sheriff Paul Babeu asks BOS for plan to reclassify command staff as at-will employees; Captain sends out mass email

The way I see it, the problem with making these particular employees "at will" means that they automatically become yes-men for the sheriff.  Disagree with the sheriff, and it's bye-bye, no matter how spotless your reputation or history.  Pinal County law enforcement is already highly politicized, with the "Law and Order" team in place.  All Pinal County residents should be watching this.  Imagine finding yourself arrested and charged with some crime based on dubious evidence, and it comes to light that you've been publicly critical of the sheriff.  Or you get a break because you've defended the sheriff through all his blunders.  It may have been unprofessional of the captain to send the e-mail blast, but I have known people over the years who plan to retire in the same vocal fashion. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:00:02 GMT
Sheriff Paul Babeu asks BOS for plan to reclassify command staff as at-will employees; Captain sends out mass email

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/Captains-letter-blasts-Sheriff-Paul-Babeu-for-plan-to-reclassify-command-staff-as-at-will-employees

 

After reading the article as well as the letter the Captain wrote,  it is my opinion, which may change after more comes to light:

1.  The Captain was unprofessional sending out the mass email.  If he had a grievence, he should have followed the correct path.  Could have took his side to the BOS instead of the mass email.  If and when he did get fired-then take it to the media.  Yes, I also believe that the Sheriff Paul has demonstrated his lack of professionalism in the past but the stupid voters voted him in anyways but that really isn't the topic here....

2.  The Captain comes off like he was forced to retire before he wanted to in April.  According to what I read HE retired, no one forced him to.  No one fired him, BOS didn't even take up the vote on the issue.  For that, he comes off as a cry baby.  He might have had good points, like the Sheriff wants to get his minons in instead of seasoned professionals but the message was lost in the whining and coming off as if his retirement was forced.

 

3. " At will" sounds like a good plan.  Really who wants law enforcement people that know that they can't get fired?  What kind of power will they hold over the average citizen?  I have run across a couple of rude cops, with the power of the badge firmly in their egos---image if they couldn't get fired?

 

4.  The Captain put up a semi-resume in his rant, if he was that good why the fear of getting fired? 

 

5.  Thanks for laugh regarding the "nakedly"  but "no pun intended" verbiage in the rant.  Screams unprofessional but it was very entertaining.  

 

Disclaimer: The above is all my opinion and only based on what the above article stated.  I am not a Paul fan, nor did I vote for him. 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:00:39 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Great catch azstv :-)

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:59:06 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Yep, I knew that was going to happen.    Wink   I remember E correcting people on his name. Couldn't resist the correction.    So what is the latest on the charges?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:29:21 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

this issue is important because many people are prosecuted and lives torn apart because of redneck laws. Nixon was a loser. the borders will become more safe. another reason is the economy....if AJ would get on board and embrace marijuana it would improve its economy. No I do not think we need Marijuana taxed or regulated because that just puts money in the governments hands not the peoples hands.

AJ needs to lead not drag. How about making the town a wi-fi town like some other towns have done. How about having a victory garden in the middle of town. How about bulk item trash pickup. If our tax dollars are just going to pay government sallaries than why? dis-incorporate AJ if its government is just a money pit.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:58:44 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

If pinal county and AJ represent what a republican run government should be, I'll stick with Obama.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:34:12 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Fisher

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:22:09 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Elliott pointed a lot of fingers at other people, seems he forgot that when you point a finger there are 3 fingers pointing right back at you. He said a lot of unkind things about other people, but karma is a b^+*h ain't it?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:49:31 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

You mean he still has some?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:45:23 GMT
Re:FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

You forgot to sign it on the bottom...

 

"Supporter of Elliot Ficsher"

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:35:55 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

Borrrring.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:55:48 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

This is a minor issue that no one cares about except GCR and K; Woooo Class 6 felony, fisher has gone big time. Fisher has done alot for AJ wile at the same time supplying GCR, K and others with years of gossip and entertainment. You should thank the Fishers.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:52:58 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Tried to get info online through the court's web site, but the minute entries are not available.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:05:54 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

I'm chiming in, becasue I can.  Don't like it?  Don't post on a public, again PUBLIC forum.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:15:26 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

What is wrong with anod posting on a public forum?  Seems to me you have no takers on your one sided thread and you want no opposing views. If you want no opposition perhaps you should 't have taken it public

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:11:52 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

So... why are you chiming in?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:07:45 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

Mytcl, the lack of respect you show here to other posters may well have something to do with your "harrassment".  You give no details, just want to know if anyone's been harrassed.  Sounds more like you have a bone to pick than are trying to get any kind of real information.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:15:06 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Any updates on the Felony charge against Fisher?

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:30:37 GMT
Get a grip

Boner should get a grip and man up. Stop crying on tv.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:34:44 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

unions built America, corperate greed is tearing it apart.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:31:48 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

A few of my friends and I have recently had issues with the AJ police department and was trying to find out if others have had similar issues. They have become increasingly agressive. This forum is probably not the place find the type of people I am trying to reach because most of the people on newzap are older and uper middle class. Many are wives and friends of politicians, police officers and other city officials. A few are politicians themselves. These types of people dont get harassed. The PO PO and prosecuters pick on the easy targets; the poor, Homeless, indigent and disabled. I saw 5 gang unit police harassing a homeless old old lady at walmart a couple of weeks ago; guess she was the leader of the pack.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:16:45 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

This is the correct thread re: lack of training and I am saying I have found them quite professional. Only asking the negative is a bit biased. I sense, even though you provided no personal details, an attitude on your part. I wonder if that was possibly the cause of a negative experience. Care to share?

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:09:23 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

Use the correct thread I was asking for people who have had problems with the police, not for comments from the penut gallery.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:59:51 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

It's a public forum and there are always two sides to a story, so I posted my opinions. No one need ask me for me to post my opinion. Have a nice evening :-)

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:48:36 GMT
Re:New AJPD Officers Lack Training

No one asked you GCR

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:38:52 GMT
New AJPD Officers Lack Training

In the past 5 years I have been pulled over once by PCSO and once by AJPD.  Both episodes were handled with the utmost of professionalism and courtesy towards me.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 05:49:27 GMT
New AJPD Officers Lack Training

Have you been harassed or abused by the AJPD or the pinal county sheriffs? do you feel that an officer has been antagonistic towards you? Have you been pulled over on the street or in your car for no reason? Ilegal search? Just plain rude officers?

If the answer is yes than please let AJPD know or/and let us know in this forum, it may help others.

Thank you

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:59:08 GMT
I wote this on Thursday, December 13, 2012

I wrote this on Thursday, December 13, 2012. I posted it that day in NewZap Forums, State of Delaware Public Issues. Today I am reposting it in all forums available. It is my hope this will cause enough people to pick up the phone or fax or write Speaker John Baynor to prevent another power give away! If you would prefer to verify first, just search State of Delaware Forum for the Title:

 

I predict the Republicans will give O'Bama whatever he wants.



Thank you, Lets_Save_America

  (MJMBME, Felton, DE)

 

I predict the Republicans will give O'Bama whatever he wants.

   I shall begin by stating the obvious. It is no secret that every day Americans of all polical spectrums are beginning to understand the network of plans laid by O'Bama and the shadows behind him. Many of these people remain loyal for a great variety of reasons that do not require reiteration here. Let's just say those reasons fall into two basic catagories, Free Stuff and so called Social Justice.

    At this point it is essential to understand that the Republicans offered the absolute wrong message in the past election. Stripping away all the flowery rhetoric and prose one can understand with only a modicom of thought the message was " WE WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR FREE STUFF and MAKE YOU WORK FOR IT, WE WILL HELP YOU GET DEPORTED IF YOU CAME HERE ILLEGALLY, and perhaps most importantly WE WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR FREE HEALTH CARE. Two obvious points are revealed when one considers this faulty message, republicans were not serious about gaining control of the White House and the democrats were able to double down on thier dual messages of free stuff and social justice thus securing the victory.

    The next point we must understand in order to reveal the machinations of the republican party is that they paired their brightest star with the loosing message giver, and this strategy was a repeat of the previous election. Yes, Paul Ryan would have a better chance at the presidency than Mitt Romney who has a history of loosing this race. He has tried in 2000 and 2008. This last election is not relevant to his history discussed here. John McCain has the same record having run in the same races and with the republicans hitching thier brightest star to another loosing message. Additionally both of these men also share another flaw, that being too narrow a base to draw from while thier running mates were aguably center target to the largest voting populations.

    Next we must consider the simple yet obvious fact that the republicans have not been able to seal a major deal since the esteemed Ronald Reagan left office. Time and time again this party capitulated to the other side on any and nearly every issue of substance. They continually gave away thier power under the guise of maintaining the high ground, or morality, or being justifed in some manner or another. Bob Dole had ushered in the era of gentelmanly compliance and it stands to this day. Oh, this party is skilled at making a good showing but they go to the corner and lie down when such a command is given.  

    I am often asked how we as a nation have arrived at this point of everything coming apart at the seams? The answer from my point of view is relatively simple. Those who would remake America began long ago obtaining positions of power and quietly awaiting thier moment to throw thier lever in thier collective machine. I am speaking of newspaper owners and editors, television station owners and production teams, education unions and other organizations, and various social organizations and prominent speakers, all schooled in the liberal think tanks now in place and forcing liberal policies upon us from thier postions of power. If you disbelieve this fantastic notion just open your eyes and look about you. You will hardly be able to count the new policies and laws that are or have been forced into place to replace the original ones that defined America. There is even a new constitution ready to be installed when the time is right, but that is another subject.

   So now we have a very basic understanding of how e have arrived at this point in history, and we have the tools to understand why. Thus I predict the republicans will capitulate yet again to the democrats in regard to the fiscal cliff and other issues soon to brought out of the shadows. If you have not yet understood my message I shall make it plain. The republicans have been infiltrated in the same way as our social media, our schools, our religions and our local governments. There is even a name for these democrat operatives - R.I.N.O. and they surface when called up and perform thier duties.

  And so the forces that dwell in the shadows of the republican party and indeed the entire govenment have succeeded in remaking the last bastions of our govenment as well. Lest you dismiss this message as a conspiracy theory just remember history is rife with real conspiracies and they do have real consequences. 

mjmbme

Felton, De

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:54:12 GMT
Re:Dangerous fire in Peralta Trail

Have you tried to calmly talk to them and explain your health issues?

According to PC webisite a recreational fire for food, warmth can only be 3 ft by 2 ft high.  If reason does not work with them you might have to video tape it to get anything done.  I would also suggest to follow up your calls to Air Quality with a written, certified letter and sending a copy to the State Air Quality and on your letter make sure you document everything and make sure Pinal knows you are sending your letter to others. 

I feel sorry for you.  Are they buring trash?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:17:09 GMT
Dangerous fire in Peralta Trail

There is a HUGE fire burning out there on their patio and there's NO ONE out there, they are INSIDE, so what is the point of having a giant fire on your patio and you're not there?  I don't even know these people, they came down here in October from Michigan or Montana or wherever the hell and have been burning us out ever since.  The fires have consistently gotten bigger and stinkier.  I have no idea why they're doing this to us. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 01 Jan 2013 07:25:53 GMT
Dangerous fire in Peralta Trail

Does anyone know the name of a good lawyer in the aj or east mesa area who can help my family?  We're at the end of our rope.  We have contacted Pinal Air Quality and our HOA here at peralta trails.  Next door the idiots are burning wood and trash in a barrel UNDER the ENCLOSED patio.  This is the same effect as a smudge pot, and it certainly appears they are trying to smoke us out like we are bees.  Three out of the four members of our family are sick--a child in this house can't sleep because she can't breath!  She is trying to sleep in a recliner but that isn't working out too well.  Noone gives a damn about whether we can breath or whether there is a fire right up next to the house next door.  Other people in this neighborhood have fire pits and burn out in the yard where the smoke goes UP IN THE AIR.  This smoke builds up under their patio and has nowhere else to go but over to our patio or the other way to the house on the other side.  I don't think anyone is living there right now, so we're the target here I see.  We are going to have to move out of here to stay alive and keep our kids breathing.  I don't think this is fair at all, and the HOA won't do anything, they say it's A-OK to burn all you want and they don't care if people are building a fire UNDERNEATH a patio that has a ROOF on it that is the same height as the house!  Pinal "Air Quality" (so called!) will not tell the same story twice about what the law is about burning and as far as I know didn't even do a thing about a complaint that was filed.  I challenge anyone reading this to go to Open Trail Lane and stand in the street or walk between the houses near 8174 and I DARE you not to throw up or have an asthma attack.  We put a dog out to go to the bathroom and it stayed out awhile and couldn't stop throwing up for an hour after it came in.  PLEASE HELP US WE ARE BEING GASSED NIGHTLY!

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 01 Jan 2013 06:47:51 GMT
MAKE A RESOLUTION THAT WILL HELP YOU TO HAVE 12 MONTHS OF SAFETY

MAKE A RESOLUTION THAT WILL HELP YOU TO HAVE 12 MONTHS OF SAFETY

Energy safety is not only one of the easiest resolutions to make and keep, it is one of the most beneficial resolutions to help you protect and enjoy all the comforts of your surroundings.  Whether at work or at home, a resolution to use energy safely is a way to help keep the New Year happy.

 Maintaining your natural gas appliances is the best way to safeguard your home from a natural gas accident.  Always put safety first when using natural gas appliances of any kind.  Your natural gas flame should be blue with a hint of yellow near the tip; a yellow flame indicates incomplete combustion and is potentially dangerous.  Call a qualified contractor if you suspect your appliances are not operating properly.

 Natural Gas Safety Tips…

  • Have your gas appliances installed and serviced by qualified industry professionals.
  • Follow manufacturers’ instructions for the care and use of gas appliances and equipment.
  • Inspect and replace if necessary, all gas appliances, connectors, furnaces, vents, flues, chimneys, and gas lines to your home.
  • Never use your stove or oven for heating your home.
  • Replace your furnace air filters monthly throughout the heating season.
  • If you suspect your furnace may have a leak or a cracked heat exchanger, have the unit professionally serviced to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning.
  • Make sure your fireplace damper is always open during operation.
  • Never operate gasoline powered engines or charcoal grills in closed garages, basements, or buildings.  
  • Keep the area surrounding natural gas appliances clear of clutter, flammable objects and flammable liquids. This includes:  gasoline, kerosene, propane or butane bottles and/or cylinders.
  • Never use flammable solvents or cleaning agents on or around an operating gas appliance.
  • Teach everyone in your household how to identify the smell of natural gas and what to do if they smell gas.

If you smell gas (rotten egg smell), hear the sound of escaping gas (hissing noise), or suspect a line break, leave the area and call 480-644-4277(GASS) or 911. For additional information on natural gas safety, visit mesaaz.gov/energy.  

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:41:47 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Interesting that not one poster has come to the defense of Fischer!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:38:53 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

Did you not read the cartoon that you posted?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:38:12 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

Class warfare? How do you figure? Obviously you see more than I see so please enlighten me.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:28:38 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

You are aware that Hostess had $944M in pension obligations they couldn't meet right? Are you also aware that their gross annual sales were only $2B/yr? It's simple math. The union shakedowns for more and more goodies finally cooked their golden egg laying goose. Now 18,000 people are out of work ( including those executives whom you loathe so much ) and all you can do is play the class warfare card again? Logic and math are your friends.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:57:52 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:53:11 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

Ah, spreading some more holiday cheer.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:38:59 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

Hearing there's two candidates for Mayor  ... Anyone know if it's true? ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:05 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_UnPzp2lmNk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_UnPzp2lmNk

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 06 Dec 2012 06:34:38 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

A few nebies have thrown their hat in the ring for the next city election .... I guess it's a safe bet that Mr. Fisher will not be participatng in this round ...

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:51:37 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

A man who enjoys it so much when others have troubles should really be careful how he lives his own life.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:14:16 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

JRene (spelling ) hope you are still around reading newszap....(if my memory serves me right)

Karma Train is coming around the bend for your favorite nurse!

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:40:58 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

The class 6 felony is only the state charge.  The feds are involved as well (at least according to the story) But I don't know how much power this department weilds.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 06:14:49 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

What I would like to know - or maybe I wouldn't - is, why was he looking into the records of a teenaged girl?  What possible interest could he have had? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 04:19:20 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Are you talking apples (state) and oranges (fed) about the charges and punishments? Two alleged crimes, two investigators, two punishments.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:51:20 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Don't you think any plea bargain might result in forfeiture of license?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:32:49 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Well, I read some more anod and I believe you are correct on the class 6

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:31:15 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

I found it two different places anywhere from 3-5. This will likely be a HIPAA violation

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:20:22 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

According to the ARS, it's a class six.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:08:30 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Class 3, 4, or 5

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:05:45 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

What he was charged with is a class 6 felony.  He'll be able to plead down to possibly a misdemeanor.  He'll probably get a slap on the wrist, a fine and be sent on his way...

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 02:47:13 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

So how does the investigation by the AZ Board of Nursing that originated back in September 2012 tie into this?  Was he placed on Administrative leave as a result of the September hearing?  Then post September 2012, perhaps on leave pending further investigation, go back and try and cover some tracks?  Lots of questions without answers here!  While I am a firm believer in due process, I hope the public is informed in a timely manner. This doesn't involve just an every day citizen, this involves someone that ran for public office with a vow to uphold an oath if elected and to deliver on public trust. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:57:15 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

I am a little surprised that he's been accused of something that looks so serious.  Up to now it's usually been related to behaving like a colicky donkey in public.

On the surface, it looks very creepy that while already on administrative leave, he is accused of hacking into a teenaged girl's medical file.  Ugh.  It seems...predatory.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:41:35 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

NZ just wasn't the same without Fisher.

And does this really come as a surprise to anyone?  

But is this really that big of story that the AJ News ran it as their lead story?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:02:41 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Politically motivated?  Aha, now the feds are after him. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:41:42 GMT
FEDS ARREST FISHER ON FELONY CHARGES

Elliott Fisher, 49, who works as a nurse, is back in  the spotlight after being arrested last week. Fisher has  made multiple unsuccessful runs for Mayor and City  Council, but may be best known for the numerous unsuccessful referendums he’s forced on city voters.Elliott Fisher, 49, who works as a nurse, is back in the spotlight after being arrested last week. Fisher has made multiple unsuccessful runs for Mayor and City Council, but may be best known for the numerous unsuccessful referendums he’s forced on city voters.
 


by: AJ News

 

Apache Junction political gadfly Elliott Fisher, 49, was arrested Monday, Nov. 26, by the federal Office of Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services, on felony charges of computer tampering, sources tell the Apache Junction/Gold Canyon News.

A public information officer with the Office of Inspector General (OIG) of the Department of Health and Human Services said he could reveal “very little” about the case. He would confirm, however, that Fisher was arrested on Monday with the “fine, able assistance of the local (Apache Junction) police.” He wouldn’t share any other information because the case is still open.

 

He did say the OIG is charged with making the federal programs of the Department of Health and Human Services more effective in eliminating waste, fraud and abuse. In addition, when there are matters that involve employees of the Department of Health and Human Services then the office of investigations also gets involved.

Additionally, a source said Fisher was charged under Arizona Revised Statute 13-2316A7, which states, “Knowingly obtaining any information that is required by law to be kept confidential or any records that are not public records by accessing any computer, computer system or network that is operated by this state, a political subdivision of this state, a health care provider as defined in section 12-2291, a clinical laboratory as defined in section 36-451 or a person or entity that provides services on behalf of a health care provider or a clinical laboratory.”

Fisher, who has made multiple runs for Mayor and City Council and has brought several referendums against the City of Apache Junction, works as a nurse.

Another source told the News that Fisher was on administrative leave and while on leave he attempted to obtain information about a female, teenaged patient.

Contacted via email, Fisher said, “Please contact my attorney at law that beat my last set of politically motivated charges.” Fisher’s attorney is Scottsdale-based Laurie Herman.

Herman did not respond to requests for comment.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:25:01 GMT
A Safety Message from the City of Mesa's Energy Resources Department...

COMFORT, CONVENIENCE, AND WARMTH...MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SAFE USE OF ENERGY

 

Cold winter months usually mean an increase in the use of both fuel burning and electric heating appliances, including portable devices.  Here are a few tips to help keep you safe and warm!

  • ALWAYS follow the manufacturer’s instructions when using a heating appliance of any type; 
  • If you have a natural gas furnace or other gas appliances, make sure everyone in your household knows the sights, sounds, or smell (rotten eggs) that may indicate a leak/emergency.  Also make sure everyone knows what to do if an emergency occurs;
  • If you have any fuel burning heating devices or systems, be aware of the symptoms of carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning and install and maintain CO alarms;
  • NEVER use devices not meant to heat a home such as your ovens or stove tops to “take the chill out”;
  • Space heaters need space, all objects should be kept a safe distance away; and…
  • NEVER leave an operating space heater unattended! Turn off or unplug the unit when not in use. 

For additional home safety tips, visit mesaaz.gov/energy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:19:29 GMT
Get a grip

I would be in favor of no deductions across the board.  Start closing all the tax loopholes, for everybody.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 01:45:17 GMT
Get a grip

I would be in favor of zero dedections, lower rate and simple. My preference is a national sales tax, no IRS for wage earners

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 01:06:17 GMT
Get a grip

In fact, deductions for dependents are quite discriminatory against singles and married without children

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 01:00:27 GMT
Get a grip

Don't forget that the standard deductions for those that don't use schedule A allow for some sales tax, mortgage interest etc. when they start closing loopholes  look for them to reduce standard deductions as those are loopholes too

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:58:38 GMT
Get a grip

Most people can't even use the mortgage interest dedection now.  Interest rates on mortgages are so low that you don't pay enough in interest to take advantage.  Now if interest rates go back up to where they were in the 70's and 80's, then it's a worthwhile deduction.

And I know it's just an internet joke, but I like that proposed admendment that says whatever law that congress passes, they must live by it as well.  So if it's good enough for the people they represent it must be good enough for them as well. Health care, pay raises, retirement, etc.

And yes, right now, everything should be on the table.  If they are going to look at social security, medicare, etc, Congress's retirement, healthcare etc. should be looked at as well.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:32:11 GMT
Get a grip

Very well said Christa!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 02 Dec 2012 21:44:23 GMT
Get a grip

We have to vote for people who are at least conscientious of the spend less approach .. No, no tax increases, it just gives politicians the idea that they have unlimited blank checks at our expense .. We have to live within our means and our elected officials are no different....

 There should be a cap on their overinflated incomes determined by the people and I'm becoming more in favor of term limits ... It's the politicians who abuse "loop holes" more than anyone. They create the loop holes and share the information .... The average tax payer or small business owner has no knowledge of these ...

I also feel the lifetime benefits politicians receive should be done away with ... Start cutting from the top and work the cuts down from there .. If it wasn't so lucrative to be a politician perhaps we'd have politicians who are there to honestly serve and make progress ...

Frankly, I was a little surprised to learn PBS received government funding .... I'd like to know how much  .. I value PBS so I support it .. I choose that over cable ... Sorry Big Bird but I'd give you the ax also .. All this stuff ads up ... a little here, a lot there.... tough choices are hard to follow through with but cuts need to be made ....

and I'm ok with programs that help people in need as long as we have a weaning off process and limits to the assistance .. We're not helping anyone when we do everything for them .. We need to teach people, give them the tools to become self reliant  ...There's a big difference between a hand out and a hand up ...

I have a young, well, able bodied family member that has received all sorts of assistance for several years now with no plan to change .. I love her but I keep asking family members to stop bailing her out .... when she's hungry, tired, cold etc she'll figure out real quick how to take care of herself and meet her own needs ... it's good for building self esteem and gives a person a sense of pride when they take care of themselves.

This is also one reason why I'm against legalizing marijuana and medical marijuana ... I think it will create a society that relies on the government ... the excuse -"I can't get a job, no one will hire me" ... because of the length of time it stays in the system, there's no way to determine if an employee is under the influence .... Next step -              apply for disability ........... 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 02 Dec 2012 21:37:24 GMT
Get a grip

Anod - why the mortgage interest deduction?  This would mean I would have to give the government another $800 - $1,000 a year to waste.  That's the only deduction I get.  And, what kinds of loopholes are you talking about?

I'd like to see changes made so that a person could not possibly get a refund in excess of the amount they paid or had withheld.  When I found out that there are people who get huge refunds in spite of paying nothing in, I was shocked. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 02 Dec 2012 09:22:16 GMT
Get a grip

If the mortgage exemption is eliminated you further deflate the housing market and we have a new crisis

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 02 Dec 2012 08:27:16 GMT
Get a grip

I'm good with both apporaches.  Spend less and increase taxes.  Not necessarily tax rates, but close the loopholes.  All of them.  Get rid of the mortgage deduction. 

And it's too bad that too many people maniputlate and play the system and ruin the orgrams for people who truly need them.  And rather than getting the abusers off the programs, that they'll shut programs down entirely.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:22:43 GMT
Get a grip

I voted for Gosar and I voted for Flake.  Both are fiscal conservatives.  I'm happy with that.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:24:07 GMT
Get a grip

Well, my request to my elected officials is to spend less money.  Some other people seem to think that government should spend MORE money and give away MORE benefits.  If I can buckle down and pay off my personal debt, they can do it too.

I would think that even some liberal Democrats can see that we can't continue these deficits and grow the economy.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:22:27 GMT
cronyism is alive n well on the Aj council

Oh, it has just been way too quiet around here the past several months.  But now that this information has surfaced, a check of the public access court records reveals some very interesting information about our former forum friend. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:11:05 GMT
cronyism is alive n well on the Aj council

Who was that not so famous person that once spoke about 'upholding an oath and protecting public trust and acting within the law as well as to a higher standard of ethical and reasonable behavior'?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:55:29 GMT
Get a grip

"Any solutions to do as we bid?"  Meant, any solutions to get the legislators to do as we bid?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:40:34 GMT
cronyism is alive n well on the Aj council

Once again?  You mean to tell me that this isn't the first investigation?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:39:51 GMT
Get a grip

If you have a problem posting articles that you agree with, say what you are thinking but may not be able to articulate as well as the writer or are generally thought provoking in your opinion, do not post them. I will however. I agree with your solutions. Any solutions to do as we bid? No one I voted for made it to the House or Senate. My only option is to write letters. What are your options?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:38:46 GMT
Get a grip

Probably not, but I can process my own thoughts and type my own words.  In fact, the photo collage of Boehner has nothing to do with election results.  Cute, but manipulated.  Lazy journalism. 

Do you not agree that the only solutions to our budget problems have to include less spending?  More efficiency in government?  Fewer programs? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 01:41:19 GMT
Get a grip

None original. All of them had been proposed, discussed and never acted on by those who have been elected to do our bidding. How about you? Got any never before heard of (original) ideas?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:14:07 GMT
Get a grip

We all need to get a grip, including the nude AIDS activists that invaded Boehner's office demanding that their services not be cut.

We're broke, and if we're not ready to give up our favorite taxpayer funded programs (all of us) - we can kiss our wallets goodbye.

Do you have any original thoughts on this, or are you just going to copy and paste other peoples' thoughts?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:31:55 GMT
cronyism is alive n well on the Aj council

At first I thought maybe you had intended to post this in another forum - UNTIL I read the attachment in detail.

So - am I to understand that a certain local gadfly, who has been keeping pretty quiet the last several months, is once again under investigation by the State Board of Nursing?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:22:15 GMT
Get a grip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/30/fiscal-cliff-10-ways-obama-congress-_n_2215099.html

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:21:17 GMT
Get a grip

Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 07:30 AM PST

Boehner is very sad that Obama won

by Jed Lewison

Collage of pictures of John Boehner crying.
Dude needs to get a grip.
New York Times:
Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner presented the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a detailed proposal on Thursday to avert the year-end fiscal crisis with $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

The proposal, loaded with Democratic priorities and short on detailed spending cuts, met strong Republican resistance. In exchange for locking in the $1.6 trillion in added revenues, President Obama embraced the goal of finding $400 billion in savings from Medicare and other social programs to be worked out next year, with no guarantees.

In all, the administration's fiscal plan would cut $4 trillion from from the deficit over the next decade, the vast majority of it coming from increased revenue, cuts agreed to last year during the debt limit fiasco, and drawdowns in military spending from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But the plan isn't just about deficit reduction: it also includes immediate stimulus measures to boost the economy and protect the jobless and it seeks to end the debt limit charade by eliminating the archaic rule altogether.

In other words, this is the kind of offer you'd expect from someone who just won reelection after debating these very issues. And, as you might expect, Republicans are already saying no, even though they lost the election—including losing more than a million more votes than Democrats in House races, only retaining their majority thanks to redistricting. As Boehner put it yesterday:

“The Democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts,” Mr. Boehner said after the meeting. “No substantive progress has been made in the talks between the White House and the House over the last two weeks.”
We can speculate until we're blue in the face about what will ultimately happen, but two big things are clear. First, the White House is not negotiating this deal like it's 2011. It's not that they aren't willing to compromise—it's that they aren't going to negotiate against themselves. Second, Republicans don't have the leverage they did in 2011. That's partly a result of the White House negotiating posture, but it's also because the key elements of the deficit reduction plan are already law.

For example, when it comes to revenue, the question isn't whether we're going to raise taxes—it's whether we're going to extend middle-class tax cuts. Under current law, the tax cuts are going away. And when it comes to spending, the sequester is also already on the books. The question isn't how to find more cuts, it's how to soften the impact of the sequester.

Republicans want to frame this as a debate over how to cut spending, but the reality is that under current law, the deficit is going to shrink dramatically—too dramatically. So the real question is how to change current law so we don't cut the deficit too quickly, because cutting the deficit too quickly would tank the economy. And if Republicans refuse to cooperate, they are the ones who will get blamed. And the sooner they realize they lost the election, the better.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:10:56 GMT
cronyism is alive n well on the Aj council
  1. [PDF] 

    Arizona State Board of Nursing

    www.azbn.gov/.../Minutes%20- ...
    File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
    Sep 19, 2012 – Nikki Austin, JD, RN, Associate Director ofInvestigations.... Elliott Edward Fisher ...

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:56:58 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

Unfortunately, you can't stop stupid people from breeding.  And because of that, the kids pay the toll.

Unfortunately, everybody says this program is underfunded or that program is underfunded, but it the subject of tax increases comes up, everything hits the fan.  Some people don't seem to grasp the concept that the money for these programs has to come from somewhere.

It would also be great if more parents actually took an interest in raising their kids instead of expecting the schools to do it or someone else to do it.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:35:55 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

I am all for improving the system and making it about real justice.  But it will take the efforts of a lot of people constantly contacting their elected representatives at the state capitol.  One of the biggest problems in the system is underfunding.  For our lawmakers, out of sight is out of mind.  But no matter what CPS does, some kids will still be victims of crimes.  There are not enough foster homes, and if they start removing every child from every home that they get a report on, there will be no place to put them all. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:31:17 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

azstvsunshine- mrsk2009- There are alot of good foster homes yes, I'm not talking about those or the unpaid volunteer child advocates. I'm bringing attention to the problem areas because those are what need fixing. I also realize Jesse Shocklee was in maricopa, as I stated, the entire CPS system in Arizona is broken. I used that case as an example. Again I want people to become aware of the problems so something can be done and changes made.

I don't know if the man went back to get his child support reduced. All I know is what I witnessed that day and it was wrong. You got me on a technicality of the law, yes interest can not be accrued. The point is even the judge stated he felt the judgement was wrong but he did it anyway.and the reason wasn't because he had no options the reason for making the judgement was to neatly wrap things up because everyone wanted to go home. That is wrong, that's not justice.

I will be naming more in the meantime - http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2012/11/13/20121113abuse-deaths-cps-watch-rise.html

While the number of child fatalities in Arizona has decreased significantly over the past six years, the number of deaths due to maltreatment edged up last year.

Still, the number of maltreatment-death cases in which Child Protective Services had been actively investigating or had previous involvement nearly doubled from 2010 to 2011.

The statistics were contained in a statewide review of child fatalities released Tuesday.


Overall, 837 children younger than 18 died in 2011, a 3 percent decline from 2010, when 862 children died.

CPS had been involved in 34 of 71 child-maltreatment deaths in 2011. The 71 deaths represented the highest number in six years. Of those 34 investigations, 15 were still being actively investigated at the time of the child's death. Last year's report documented 70 maltreatment deaths, of which 18 had previous CPS involvement. Five of those cases were still being investigated by CPS when the child died.

"It's surprising to see such a big jump," said Dr. Mary Ellen Rimsza, who chairs the Arizona Child Fatality Review Program, which issued the annual report. "These are the families we have to follow more closely before they reach crisis."

Rimsza and others suggested the number is attributable to overloaded caseworkers, high worker turnover and cases staying on the books longer. CPS workers routinely handle caseloads that are two to three times the national standard. The caseworker turnover rate has topped 30 percent, and thousands of investigations have remained open for months.

Since 2009, state and local budget cuts have reduced or eliminated child-abuse prevention, drug-treatment, child-care and mental-health services.

Tasya Peterson, director of communications for the Arizona Department of Economic Security, which oversees CPS, said the report highlights the need to reduce the number of children who die of suicide, drowning and maltreatment.

Last week, in a letter to The Arizona Republic, DES Director Clarence Carter voiced concern about the emphasis placed on child-fatality reporting. He said Arizona's fatality rate is lower than the national average, although data-collection methods vary among states.

Dana Wolfe Naimark, president of Children's Action Alliance, a statewide non-profit advocacy group, said the number of child fatalities is a warning sign.

"It should tell us how many other cases there are in which children are facing trouble," Naimark said. "It should be a big, flashing warning sign -- a siren -- that much more is going on here."

The typical child who dies by abuse or neglect is an infant. Half never reached their first birthday. Five times out of six, the child dies at the hands of a parent or parent's partner. About 70 percent of the time, drugs or alcohol is involved.

The causes are well-known: substance abuse, a young mother, separated parents, a family history of physical abuse, mental illness and poverty. Add to the mix reductions in social-welfare resources and a recession that has cost people jobs and homes, and many parents take out their frustrations on their children.

Among the findings in the latest report:

Child homicides rose in 2011 to 42, compared with 36 in 2010. Nearly a third involved guns.

In August, Perla Morales told police she'd shot her two children three times at close range in Tucson. She and her relatives told investigators of a loving mother overwhelmed by economic and family stresses. Her daughter Emma Rosovich, 4, lies in a nearby cemetery, and her son Richard Rosovich Jr. rests in an urn in the house where he died.

In 2011, 32 children drowned. Two-thirds were 4 or younger.

Winter Azure was 10 months old when her babysitter left her in a bath for 10 minutes, CPS reported. The Tucson infant died six days later on June 18 when doctors turned off life support.

The number of children killed in motor-vehicle crashes shot up from 61 to 70. Lack of seat belts and other restraints were cited nearly half of the time. Drugs or alcohol played a role 20 percent of the time.

On April 30, Angel Alvarez died at age 5 in a Phoenix car crash. He was in the front seat without restraint. Police measured the driver at three times the legal alcohol limit.

More than half of the children killed in abuse cases came from families that had been or were being investigated by CPS.

Za'Naya Flores weighed 14 pounds when she died in Tucson on Jan. 12, a couple of months before she was to turn 2. CPS reunited her with her mother a few months earlier, after a jury acquitted her of charges that she broke a limb of one of Za'Naya's four siblings.

There were other warning signs in Tuesday's report.

The number of child suicides shot up to 39 from 24, more than 60 percent. One was a 7-year-old, the youngest child to commit suicide since Arizona began keeping track, said Markay Adams, suicide-prevention coordinator at the Department of Health Services.

"We're saddened by the sharp increase," Adams said. "It's a public-health priority. We don't have any state funds for suicide prevention."

Adams, Naimark and Rimsza all decried the lack of state resources but also pointed out that the community needs to come to terms with the need for better prevention. Programs to help parents tackle drug or alcohol abuse, identify mental-health problems, improve parenting skills, resolve conflicts or even balance a budget all help prevent child abuse, neglect and suicide, they said.

Not all the findings in Tuesday's report were troubling. The review noted that the overall number of children who died in 2011 fell again for the sixth year. That number includes accidents and medical causes.

Also, authorities and caregivers have been doing a better job reporting fatal child abuse to the state. By law, doctors, teachers, parents, guardians and others responsible for the care of children are required to report suspected abuse to CPS. They also have to alert the state after the fact when a child dies at the hands of a caregiver.

In 2010, Rimsza's panel criticized authorities for reporting fatal abuse only half of the time. In 2011, only one in five cases went unreported, by far the lowest rate in the past five years. It also follows anecdotal reports that people are calling more often when they suspect abuse, she and others said.

"The community is paying attention. That's good news," Naimark said.

Rimsza's panel suggests better record-keeping and information sharing would help CPS track troubled families before fatal violence erupts.

"We need more contact with families, rather than paperwork," Rimsza said.

That face time is key, and Arizona's home-visiting programs that target new mothers and families at risk of abuse or neglect are a step in the right direction, Naimark said. Arizona is expanding its home-visiting programs with federal funding.

"It's like having a coach or a mentor. It's helping the family figure it out themselves," she said. "It's not just about putting back resources. It's about having a plan to reach out to families before they reach crisis. It's in our hands as a community."

Mary K. Reinhart contributed to this article.


Read more:  http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2012/11/13/20121113abuse-deaths-cps-watch-rise.html#ixzz2DP4Zrs7A
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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:54:20 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2006/05/22/story8.html

This sounded like such a good idea at the time.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:23:37 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

Squirrel - what kinds of things should the council be doing, or not doing, that would benefit the private sector?  The last time they tried to do something big we got stuck with the AJ Towne Center disaster.  Yet to this day, all that land is still owned by AJ Towne Center, according to Pinal County's records.  All the taxpayers of AJ got out of it is a bunch of vacant buildings and bare land.  I wish they had stuck to maintaining streets and public parks.

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:18:17 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

there are NO good candidates. the same OLD same OLD un and NEVER DO ANYTHING FOR AJ -barkers notorious for IS IT WESTERN ENOUGH.. never having ANY vision for aj just wanting it to look like a run down BARN.. inslacos there for A SMILE & A HAND SHAKE.. wilsons for the HORSEYS only WALDRON THE WALPITE cars ore about his civil servant pension than AHYTHING in aj.. (questionable how HE got back in...) n YES he LIED for HE was on the TEAM in advertisements and on camera during the 07 elections...  once a walpite always a walpite.. Mr serdy has tried to bring in somehting to Aj n has been slapped down..  

The council the majority doesnt want ANYTHING to come into AJ they want to keep  it like it is a DEAD END road.. while this city voters cry for SOMETHING other than snow birds.. to bolster up ajs mom n pop shops.. MANY have gone out of biz n others are barely struggeling to keep the lights on .. See the council aside from mr serdy HATES ANYTHING NEW or EXCITING TO COME INTO AJ.. while other cities mesa phx scotts dale tempe chandler san tan ALL organized to draw in revenue and activities to bolster up the local economy but in aj... THEY HATE ANYTHING NEW.. this IS why the next election Aj MUST vote in VISIONARIES not OLD TROLLS back on those chairs who want NOTHING NEW n will shoot down anything that MAY bring in revenue to this town GOD FORBID any activity less the mayor or barker brings it in n OOOH praise be.... NOT

AJ deserves better n its gotten REHASHED.. as the MAYOR said we dont want to TRAIN anybody new... meanig no new council members.. from the CLI classes but OLD FOGEY REHASH since they dont want to UPSET the status quo... Aj its time to wake up n rub the sleep  from your eyes.. its time to VOTE IN THE NEW N VISIONARY to the city council... PERIOD. Remove OLD bags and the UNWILLINGLY -to have a broader view for this city..Aj needs leaders not creakers........

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:45:30 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

No Twinkies and now no Grandma either. Thank you SEIU and Happy Holidays!!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/20/Thanksgiving-LAX-shutdown-union

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:44:35 GMT
BINGO!

And to that, I would only add...

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:21:24 GMT
BINGO!

See, I could care less about his religious views. This country needs a leader, not a pastor, priest, rabi, sheik... whatever.

I am, however, having difficulty finding a single social program that started out 'good'. It's not a function of abuse as much as it is the fact that they were created as unsustainable systems from the start. The can has been kicked. There is no more road. Every ponzi scheme meets its end sooner or later. The difference is they have the luxcury of the Federal Reserve to perpetuate it.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. And by interesting, I mean horrifying and completely predictable.

To me the real humor in the original post is that a cartoon that is aimed at painting conservatives as racists, in fact exposes the real racism from the left in its message. It should make any thinking person chuckle. Thanks for sharing, 2.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:19:22 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

 I also agree that the system is broken but it's on many levels  ...  there's no doubt CPS needs a serious revamping. It's such a huge mess that it would be difficult to know where to begin ..

Arizona ranks #1 in teen susicide and I know Pinal County ranks high in the number of grandparents raising their grandchildren. This is a disgrace .. I'm one of those grandparents and volunteers in the system ... I'm considering sharing my story ..

Mrs. K is right .. As a school employee, I see what some kids have to live with every day ...

Maybe if politicians would spend less money on mudslinging campaigns and put their efforts towards real issues like our failing education system and the CPS crisis we'd make some much needed improvements to protect children ..

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:45:46 GMT
BINGO!

Romney's problem was he wouldn't give specifics.  He was all about cutting to the bottom line.  Sounds good, but a lot of those programs he's interested n cutting have people at the other end.  And just like most programs that start out good, people find ways to abuse them.  But you don't get rid of the programs that some people depend of because people are abusing it.  You get rid of the people abusing it.

And his view on social issues was really out of touch with America.  They were right in line with his religous views, but out of touch with a lot of America.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 17 Nov 2012 05:32:47 GMT
BINGO!

The truth has no place in a society who votes by how they feel, not by what they know. This last election proves that we have reached the tipping point where the only thing that matters to people is what they can get from "Obama's stash" (which has been stolen from others). I am no Romney fan, but he was in fact stating the truth about his political strategy. 47% would vote for Pee Wee Herman if he promised them 'free' stuff.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:06:34 GMT
Union parasites kill another host

Or is it Hostess? R.I.P. Twinkie, Ding Dong, and 18,500 jobs.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/NATL-Twinkies-Maker-Hostess-Going-Out-of-Business-179643161.html

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:55:56 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

"And I'm not going to lose too much sleep if people making over $250K a year have to pay a bit more."

Sleep? Perhaps not. Your job or those of your children and/or grandchildren? Very likely.

I know it will dramatically affect both of my businesses and the people they employ. This is not some idealistic mental exercise; it is simple fact. Look at the new jobless claims. Look at the list of businesses anouncing massive layoffs and plant closings. Look at the earnings reports from America's biggest corporations excluding those who are in the favor of government like Government Motors (GM) or Government Electric (GE). We are in a colossal crap storm and our answer is to throw gas on the fire?

Bill Whittle did a great job of presenting the foolishness of this approach. Every person in American should watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=661pi6K-8WQ

Forgive me if I have a hard time taking seriously any ideas about the economy from an administration that hasn't even produced a budget in 4 years.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:53:28 GMT
BINGO!

The larger question is, why is it that 47% of the people end up with 0 tax liability?  Is it due to unemployment or underemployment?  Retirees?  No doubt, in some cases, yes.  My question is - of the 47%, how many of those are either retired, unemployed or underemployed?  See, we call them "loopholes" when the rich take them, but when we 99 percenters take them we call them "deductiions."  And some peoples' "deductions" actually get them back more money than they paid in!  I wouldn't have believed it was possible until a friend of mine complained to me about her son's family blowing a $9,000 tax refund on expensive "toys".  I was shocked.  I said, "Well, they should have their withholding changed, it's silly to let the government use their money all year."  She said, "Oh, but they have almost nothing withheld.  That's what they get back after they file their return and get all those other benefits." ( :-O)

So, Romney may have offended quite a few people with his statement, but the problem is - it's true.  I believe this statistic can be found on the IRS web site.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:55:02 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

Again, Romney Lost.  Spin it how you want, he lost and it wasn't even close.  Blame it on who you want, blame it on what you want, but he still lost.

And I'm not going to lose too much sleep if people making over $250K a year have to pay a bit more.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:54:34 GMT
BINGO!

Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:00 AM PST

Post-election chitchat

by Jen Sorensen

Reposted from Comics by Tom Tomorrow

(Click to enlarge)

Romney was roundly mocked when he insulted 47% of the country, yet that didn't stop Bill O'Reilly from saying that half the country voted for Obama because they wanted stuff and things. Perhaps it's time O'Reilly directed his crusade against laziness toward his own intellect.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:29:41 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

I know people who voted for Romney and live in the precincts in Cleveland that reported zero votes for him. I guess it is true that it matters not who casts the votes, but rather who counts them.

Hold on to your pants, America. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/budget-deficit-rises-120-billion-october-190237736--business.html

This 'eat the rich' charade is nothing more than an attempt to appease the people who envy success. $1.6T in new taxes over 10 years? This administration will burn through that in less than a year. If you don't think these tax hikes will affect job creation and the middle class, you may be a member of the President's choom gang.

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:00:42 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!
 

Unofficial Results
November 6, 2012
General Election
Wood County, Ohio

11/07/12
00:10:32

 

Registered Voters 108014 Num. Report Precinct 97 - Num. Reporting 97 100.00%

 

President and Vice President    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   62069  

Stewart Alexander   43 0.07%
Richard Duncan   115 0.19%
Virgil Goode   58 0.09%
Gary Johnson   896 1.44%
Barack Obama   31596 50.90%
Mitt Romney   28997 46.72%
Jill Stein   262 0.42%
Write-in Votes   102 0.16%

 

U.S. Senator    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   60688  

Sherrod Brown   30620 50.45%
Josh Mandel   27190 44.80%
Scott A. Rupert   2878 4.74%

 

Representative to Congress - 5th    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   60466  

Eric Eberly   2300 3.80%
Bob Latta   31324 51.80%
Angela Zimmann   26842 44.39%

 

State Senator    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   58362  

Jeff Bretz   22089 37.85%
Randy Gardner   36273 62.15%

 

State Representative    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   58260  

Tim W. Brown   30146 51.74%
Nathan Eberly   2670 4.58%
Kelly Wicks   25444 43.67%

 

County Commissioner 1-2    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   56810  

James F. Carter   29280 51.54%
Fred E. Keith, Jr.   24028 42.30%
Brad Waltz   3502 6.16%

 

County Commissioner 1-3    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   56512  

Doris Herringshaw   27269 48.25%
Joel M. Kuhlman   29243 51.75%

 

Prosecuting Attorney    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   42021  

Paul A. Dobson   42021 100.00%

 

Clerk of Court of Common Pleas    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   42288  

Cindy A. Hofner   42288 100.00%

 

Sheriff    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   45042  

Mark Wasylyshyn   45042 100.00%

 

County Recorder    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   55291  

Julie L. Baumgardner   32954 59.60%
Brian O. Boos   22337 40.40%

 

County Treasurer    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   43700  

Jill D. Engle   43700 100.00%

 

County Engineer    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   41203  

Raymond A. Huber   41203 100.00%

 

Coroner    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   42773  

Douglas W. Hess   42773 100.00%

 

Justice of the Supreme Court 1-1    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   45158  

Terrence O'Donnell   33649 74.51%
Mike Skindell   11509 25.49%

 

Justice of the Supreme Court 1-2    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   44415  

Robert R. Cupp   23694 53.35%
William M. O'Neill   20721 46.65%

 

Justice of the Supreme Court (Unexpired)    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   44511  

Yvette McGee Brown   14830 33.32%
Sharon L. Kennedy   29681 66.68%

 

Judge of Court of Appeals    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   38647  

James D. Jensen   38647 100.00%

 

Judge of Court of Common Pleas 1-2    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   40452  

Reeve Kelsey   40452 100.00%

 

State Issue 1    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   54477  

YES   18617 34.17%
NO   35860 65.83%

 

State Issue 2    
    Total
Number of Precincts   97  
Precincts Reporting   97 100.0%
Times Counted   62338/108014 57.7%
Total Votes   55010  

YES   22007 40.01%
NO   33003 59.99%

 

Perrysburg City ADD. 1.45 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   16  
Precincts Reporting   16 100.0%
Times Counted   12114/18818 64.4%
Total Votes   11676  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   5747 49.22%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   5929 50.78%

 

Rossford City Charter Amendment    
    Total
Number of Precincts   5  
Precincts Reporting   5 100.0%
Times Counted   3346/5393 62.0%
Total Votes   2979  

YES   1813 60.86%
NO   1166 39.14%

 

Bairdstown Village ADD. 4 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   27/85 31.8%
Total Votes   27  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   8 29.63%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   19 70.37%

 

Haskins Village REN. 3 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   616/887 69.4%
Total Votes   607  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   410 67.55%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   197 32.45%

 

Jerry City Village REN. 3 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   174/303 57.4%
Total Votes   170  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   100 58.82%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   70 41.18%

 

Millbury Village ADD. 1 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   633/926 68.4%
Total Votes   612  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   360 58.82%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   252 41.18%

 

North Baltimore Village Bond Issue    
    Total
Number of Precincts   2  
Precincts Reporting   2 100.0%
Times Counted   1326/2453 54.1%
Total Votes   1285  

FOR THE BOND ISSUE   671 52.22%
AGAINST THE BOND ISS   614 47.78%

 

West Millgrove Village REN. 5 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   57/130 43.8%
Total Votes   56  

FOR THE TAXY LEVY   29 51.79%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   27 48.21%

 

Bloom Township REP. 0.6 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   4  
Precincts Reporting   4 100.0%
Times Counted   1160/1925 60.3%
Total Votes   1123  

FOR THE TAXY LEVY   723 64.38%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   400 35.62%

 

Center Township REN. 1.2 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   717/1008 71.1%
Total Votes   691  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   470 68.02%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   221 31.98%

 

Freedom Township ADD. 1 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   2  
Precincts Reporting   2 100.0%
Times Counted   1486/2153 69.0%
Total Votes   1417  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   708 49.96%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   709 50.04%

 

Jackson Township REN. 3 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   345/578 59.7%
Total Votes   339  

FOR THE TAXY LEVY   246 72.57%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   93 27.43%

 

Grand Rapids Township ADD. 2.35 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   2  
Precincts Reporting   2 100.0%
Times Counted   837/1329 63.0%
Total Votes   810  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   472 58.27%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   338 41.73%

 

Lake Township (Unincorp.) REP. 1.4 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   4  
Precincts Reporting   4 100.0%
Times Counted   3358/5213 64.4%
Total Votes   3249  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   2069 63.68%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   1180 36.32%

 

Liberty Township REP. 0.75 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   2  
Precincts Reporting   2 100.0%
Times Counted   819/1310 62.5%
Total Votes   789  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   464 58.81%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   325 41.19%

 

Montgomery Township REN. 0.3 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   4  
Precincts Reporting   4 100.0%
Times Counted   1817/3114 58.3%
Total Votes   1747  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   1033 59.13%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   714 40.87%

 

Perry Township REN. 2 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   2  
Precincts Reporting   2 100.0%
Times Counted   817/1343 60.8%
Total Votes   790  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   560 70.89%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   230 29.11%

 

Perrysburg Township ADD. 4 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   9  
Precincts Reporting   9 100.0%
Times Counted   6284/10795 58.2%
Total Votes   6044  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   3470 57.41%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   2574 42.59%

 

Portage Township REN. 1 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   3  
Precincts Reporting   3 100.0%
Times Counted   844/1274 66.2%
Total Votes   814  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   489 60.07%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   325 39.93%

 

Troy Township REN. 1.8 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   3  
Precincts Reporting   3 100.0%
Times Counted   2056/3205 64.1%
Total Votes   1981  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   1466 74.00%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   515 26.00%

 

Troy Township (Unincorp.) REN. 1 mill    
    Total
Number of Precincts   2  
Precincts Reporting   2 100.0%
Times Counted   1556/2441 63.7%
Total Votes   1429  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   908 63.54%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   521 36.46%

 

Anthony Wayne Schools - Renewal 3.4 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   286/384 74.5%
Total Votes   278  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   151 54.32%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   127 45.68%

 

Bowling Green Schools Income Tax 0.75    
    Total
Number of Precincts   29  
Precincts Reporting   29 100.0%
Times Counted   15695/33394 47.0%
Total Votes   14646  

FOR THE INCOME TAX   6984 47.69%
AGAINST THE INCOME T   7662 52.31%

 

Perrysburg Schools Incremental 13.15 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   24  
Precincts Reporting   24 100.0%
Times Counted   15880/24398 65.1%
Total Votes   15430  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   7908 51.25%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   7522 48.75%

 

Mid County Ambulance District REN. 2 mills    
    Total
Number of Precincts   5  
Precincts Reporting   5 100.0%
Times Counted   2535/3754 67.5%
Total Votes   2423  

FOR THE TAX LEVY   1534 63.31%
AGAINST THE TAX LEVY   889 36.69%

 

Local Option Pct 010 - Kroger    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   454/1162 39.1%
Total Votes   434  

YES   314 72.35%
NO   120 27.65%

 

Local Option Pct. 104 - Walmart    
    Total
Number of Precincts   1  
Precincts Reporting   1 100.0%
Times Counted   758/1585 47.8%
Total Votes   724  

YES   459 63.40%
NO   265 36.60%
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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:40:33 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

we petition the obama administration to:

   

Recount the election!

   

It has become blatantly obvious the voter fraud that was committed during the 2012 Presidential elections.  In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters.  It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote!

If ID laws had been enforced (which the administration is completely against because that meant they would lose) then this wouldn't be an issue.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:49:53 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

I read lots.  And I consider the source. I definitely don't believe everything I read.  But what I am reading is there are quite a few companies hiring as well.

And sorry, but I don't believe we're that much worse off than we were six or seven years ago.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:47:35 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

Do you even read anything about what is going on in this world? I agree Romney wasn't the answer, but 4 more years of this most definately wasn't. Just ask the hundreds of companies that are laying people off.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:34:29 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

Yeah, yeah, the worlds coming to an end, the US is sinking fast etc.  etc.

 

Romney wasn't the answer, sorry. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:19:28 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

I know I shed a tear for my country on election night. These are going to be an interesting 4 years.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:42:10 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

No, men don't grow boobs on pot.

And from what I've read, there isn't a physical addiction, like there is with an opiate or tobacco, but there can be a psychological dependance, depending on usage.  But isn't that true with just about anything?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:15:53 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Don't men grow tits on pot?  Now, that would be a bad side affect.  Unless of course, you want to grow boobs and become a cross dresser.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:22:16 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Pot isn't habit forming?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:58:50 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

MrsK said painful condition and then said "break a hip".  The pain is what people treat with cannabis, not any kind of open wound or infection.

And pills from big Pharm aren't always the answer.  There's a reason when you get pain meds from your doctor that they will only give you so many and limited number of refills.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:47:13 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I'd be cautious with that one. Staph infection treated with getting stoned?  

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:53:30 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I would be willing to bet that there are quite a few people (more than quite a few actually) who would rather do that (and do do that) than to take something prescribe by a doctor.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:33:18 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Legal ones prescribed by a doctor are subject to abuse.  Are you suggesting that people with painful conditions should not have access to drugs that have been tested and approved for their intended use?  Break your hip, smoke a joint and all is well? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:29:49 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I bet if truth be told, he is being told to lean that way...

 

Romney could have won the election.  All he would have had to do is claim that he was going to push to legalize mnarijuana and the election would have been his  Wink

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:56:24 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Keep in mind, BO leans toward not legalizing it

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:26:58 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

MrsK, is that any intoxicating substance?  Because the biggest culprit of intoxicating substances are the legal ones prescribed by a doctor.

GCR, I would go along with it being placed on a national ballot.

 

I liked this in the article: " pressure from anti-drug groups to protect young people from harm they say would result if states set up a regulated and taxed marijuana trade".  Keep them away from the evil drugs, but it's ok to drink until you drop.....

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:05:54 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Nov 7 (Reuters) - Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters.

"They are facing an uphill battle with implementing this, in the face of ... presidential opposition and in the face of federal enforcement opposition," Sabet said.

Colorado and Washington state legalized the possession and sale of marijuana for adult recreational use on Tuesday through ballot measures in defiance of federal law, while a similar initiative was defeated at the polls in Oregon.

The initiatives appeared to reflect growing national support for liberalized marijuana laws, as indicated by a Gallup poll last year that found 50 percent of Americans favored making it legal, versus 46 percent opposed.

The U.S. Department of Justice, which considers marijuana an illegal drug liable to being abused, said enforcement of the federal Controlled Substances Act "remains unchanged."

"We are reviewing the ballot initiatives and have no additional comment at this time," a government statement said.

Sabet said he expected the Obama administration would at some point file a federal lawsuit to challenge and seek to block aspects of state-level legalization measures and that this "is going to be caught up in the courts for quite a while."


HARD TO ROLL BACK CLOCK

But federal action was not expected to snuff out state-sanctioned marijuana in those states - especially the ability of individuals to possess an ounce or less of the drug without risk of arrest by local police.

Sabet, who opposes legalization, acknowledged that states were free to eliminate their own penalties for possession. But he said U.S. Attorneys could send letters to Colorado and Washington governors warning them not to implement provisions to regulate and tax marijuana at special stores.

Or the federal government could wait until such a system is created and sue to block it, he said.

Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, had said he personally opposed his state's legalization measure. But he has since said he plans to respect the will of voters.

In Washington state, Democratic gubernatorial candidate Jay Inslee, who was leading in the vote count in a tight race, has spoken out against his state's initiative but is committed to implementing it, campaign spokeswoman Jaime Smith said.

If the Obama administration reacts too harshly, it could suffer politically with younger, more left-leaning voters who chose legalization and typically lean Democratic.

But President Barack Obama also faces pressure from anti-drug groups to protect young people from harm they say would result if states set up a regulated and taxed marijuana trade.

Robert DuPont, who served as drug czar for former Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford and opposes legalization, said he welcomed a confrontation.

"I think it's time to resolve it," he said.

Ian Millhiser, senior constitutional policy analyst with the left-leaning Center for American Progress, said the federal government, even if it sues to challenge the Colorado and Washington initiatives, cannot force police in those states to arrest people for marijuana infractions.

"If I were Barack Obama, I would look at this and say I would rather have young voters with me," Millhiser said. (Additional reporting by Jonathan Kaminsky in Olympia; Editing by Cynthia Johnston and Jim Loney)

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:50:53 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I think it should go to a national ballot, but I don't think government wants to give us that say

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:34:20 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

My views on intoxicating substances of any kind are not very...tolerant.  Once you're intoxicated, if you're outside the confines of your own home, it IS everyone's business.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:22:33 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I wasn't trying to bait or interogate.  I guess I wasn't sure what you meant by the comment you posted.

 

My take is that keeping it illegal isn't working.  Those that want it are still getting it.    

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:21:05 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

 

legalize and tax.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:25:44 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?
After the amendment passed on Tuesday evening, Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, cautioned Coloradans not to celebrate just yet.
 
“The voters have spoken and we have to respect their will," Hickenlooper, who opposed the amendment, said in a statement on his website. "This will be a complicated process, but we intend to follow through. That said, federal law still says marijuana is an illegal drug so don’t break out the Cheetos or Goldfish too quickly."
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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:05:58 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

And I am here for a discussion, not to be interrogated or baited, just a good discussion

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:42:30 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I've seen this story.  

 

But GCR, I asked you your stance on the isssue.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:02:24 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

I would agree that the system is broken, but the problem is that too many people are abusing and neglecting their own children.  Once in awhile you hear of child abuse in a foster home, but most of the time the abuse and neglect are happening in the child's own home.  What is your solution?  I am one of those worthless child advocates.  Only, you reported an incorrect detail.  CASAs are not paid, we are volunteers.  We are just as frustrated with the system sometimes as everyone else.  Bottom line is, if people would give their own kids a decent home, we wouldn't even be needed.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:56:46 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?
 
11/07/2012 @ 10:08AM |36,045 views

Updated: Will Obama Harsh Colorado's Historic Marijuana Legalization?

A bud of Maui Afghooey medical marijuana is di...

(Image credit: AFP/Getty Images via @daylife)

UPDATE: The Denver Post’s John Ingold quotes Colorado Gov. Hickenlooper saying, “My sense is that it is unlikely the federal government is going to allow states one by one to unilaterally decriminalize marijuana.” But he added: “You can’t argue with the will of the voters.”

Read more here.

As an adviser for a college newspaper in Colorado, I watched the staff’s two best journalists debate last night which was the bigger story for their readership: Obama being re-elected or Colorado becoming the first state to legalize marijuana for recreational use by voting in favor of Amendment 64 (Washington state came in a close second). This might sound like a silly question — and our Editor in Chief decidedly chose to lead with Obama — but it’s really not.

The implications for Colorado are serious. Economically, it could both bolster the already legal medical marijuana industry and do damage to the illicit dealer. It could also lead to a tourist boon, the likes of which Colorado has not known since the chairlift.

But Governor John Hickenlooper, co-founder of Wynkoop Brewing Company, was opposed to Amendment 64 for multiple reasons. And he was his usual lighthearted but sharp self in defeat last night. Quoted in the Washington Post:

“The voters have spoken and we have to respect their will,” Hickenlooper said on Amendment 64. “This will be a complicated process, but we intend to follow through. That said, federal law still says marijuana is an illegal drug so don’t break out the Cheetos or gold fish too quickly.”

He’s right. And that’s a rub that will be felt from the Pacific and Rockies all the way back to Washington D.C. So while my students debated the merits of both stories, I was considering the implications of how they work together. As The Week asked yesterday: “It’s likely that at least one state will legalize marijuana for recreational use on Tuesday. Would either candidate allow that?”

While voters who feel allegiance to both Obama and pot decriminalization are plentiful, their common causes have not had a good history together.

Obama said recently: “ “I don’t think that legalization of drugs is going to be the answer.”

More ominously for supporters of legalization, this summer U.S. Deputy Attorney General James Cole wrote this:

Persons who are in the business of cultivating, selling or distributing marijuana, and those who knowingly facilitate such activities, are in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, regardless of state law.

What that really means in terms of enforcement is the major question, but the Obama Administration has turned up its rhetoric over time toward a less and less tolerant posture. And using marijuana for medical purposes was a low-grade priority with a lot of potential sentiment backlash. The votes in Colorado and Washington turned that pressure up to a critical level last night by adding the element of recreational use. And it’s not hard to imagine the feds ramping up everything from grower anddistribution crackdowns to federal targeting of pot stores.

It’s a little ironic, isn’t it? Liberal voters in Colorado and Washington, along with Obama, helped each other feel high last night. Now they may be each other’s reasons for coming down.

Also on Forbes:

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:33:26 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

It's pretty straightforward. It says the domocratic party wants more tax revenue, which we all know to be a fact and marijuana would be a good vehicle for them to generate an additional tax

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:29:02 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

Everybody wants their taxes to go down on one hand and wants spending for this program or that program increased on the other.  Besides that, all the news is ever going to report are the failures.  They aren't going to tell you about the success stories.  And I'm willing to bet that the successes outweigh the failures.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:24:39 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

Why?  Just so you can cry a bit longer?

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:21:28 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

"More tax revenue for big government and nobody wants more tax revenue than the democratic party"

Ok, then care to explain this statement and your stance on the issue?

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:20:44 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Where or when did I say I wasn't in favor of any taxes?

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:04:03 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

There are alot of good foster homes out there.....

Did your friend that was in jail ever petition to have the child support reduced?  Law states upon petition they may suspend interest....doesn't say anything about an automatic stay because a person is in jail. 

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/search/oop/qfullhit.asp?CiWebHitsFile=/ars/25/00327.htm&CiRestriction=incarcerated

D. Notwithstanding any other law, pursuant to a petition filed pursuant to this section the court may suspend the imposition of future interest that accrues on a judgment for support issued pursuant to this article for the period of time that the petitioner is incarcerated or physically or mentally disabled to the extent that the person is unable to maintain employment.

Here is an article from 2004 maybe its changed?

https://peerta.acf.hhs.gov/uploadedfiles/buildingdebt.pdf

The No Justification

Approach:

Incarceration

is insufficient to justify

elimination or reduction

of an existing child

support obligation.

Arizona

Arkansas

Delaware

Florida***

Indiana

Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maryland

Montana

Nebraska*

New Hampshire

 

 

New York

North Dakota

Ohio

Oklahoma

Pennsylvania**

South Carolina***

South Dakota***

Utah***

Virginia**

 

 

Also, Jesse was in Maricopa County, not Pinal.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:01:30 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

My hope is to draw enough attention to cause other people to want to get involved. I can not stand by and continue to watch the lives of families and children be destroyed at the hands of incompetent people. I have personally experienced these things and have witnessed many others who also have. Judges with little or no experience are getting appointed in the superior court by judge Olson and Mccarville and they are making huge mistakes that have life long effects on people.

I wish I had the numbers of children in Az that have died at the hands of abusive foster parents or parents that children have been placed back with. Watch the news, the Shocklee girl. Mom was in prison for 4 yrs in california for abusing and torchuring her children, yet she gets them back and now her youngest daughter is missing. Jesse's siblings discribed a horrific scenario of what happened to her. 2 yr old children beaten to death at the hands of foster parents and medical exams show almost every bone in a childs body had been broken at one point. Myself and others I know have made countless contacts to CPS on behalf of abused and neglected children. "Investigations" sometimes never go beyond the initial call, some are disregarded after a brief visit to a home.  No follow up.

I could give more detailed info about my personal experiences, I don't know that it would make any more difference. The system as a whole is broken, and my personal experiences and what I've personally witnessed start within Pinal County. There are countless others who's lives have been affected by the specific people I'm naming. I hope this will go to print and spark a fire for changes to be made.

Kevein White another appointed judge. I watched him make decisions in child support cases that were so far wrong. One example- A man had racked up about 10 g's in child support because the state was charging him child support while in prison. FIRST -The law states a person can not accrue debt while incarcerated. Apparently he had one natural child and several others he'd help his girlfriend raise from a young age. SECOND - Pinal County child support enforcement didn't just charge child support for the mans natural child, they included support for the children who were not his because they weren't able to locate their natural father.  When he came to court to contest the amount the man stated he had no problem paying support for his natural child but it was unfair and unreasonable for him to help raise someone elses children then be charged for child support to boot. Judge White fully agreed and stated it was wrong to do so. He asked to see an accounting of any benefits or finnancial support his child recieved. THIRD- The child support enforcement agency had not one shred of documenation of amounts. They must provide an accounting to justify a judgement. Bottom line it was the end of the day, the women representing PC child support enforcement wanted to go home and wanted the case neatly wrapped up with no further investigation. What does judge White do? He rules in favor of his courtroom friends that he works with on a daily basis and sticks it to the guy knowing full well it was wrong, even stated it himself. The judge had a few options. His job is to stay within the guidelines of the law and make fair reasonable judgment based on factual information. Judge white went againt his own beliefs and oath. There are countless others. How does a judge make rulings on something he himself knows is wrong and why is nothing being done about it?

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:51:11 GMT
We the people petition the Obama administration to: Recount the election!

We the people petition the Obama administration to:     Recount the election!         https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv  

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:34:40 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

There has to be more to this story.  Fill us in more.  You wouldn't post this and call people out if there wasn't a reason.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:39:10 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Ok, then forget about tax revenue.  I guess you aren't in favor of any kind of taxes.

Would you like to see alcohol made illegal?  Or are you ok with one being legal and one being illegal?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:48 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Care to tell me when or where I said I favor tax on alcohol?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:13:35 GMT
When The System Fails Children - Pinal County incompetency, nepotism and corruption

I'm writing because most people have no knowledge of what's goes on within the Pinal County courts and departments that were intended to protect children. Children are suffering at the hands of incompetent judges, paid child advocates, child support and CPS. Something needs to be done. I'm hoping that by opening up about this, other people will care enough to get involved and help do something about this broken system.

CPS is a farse, it's a joke. Why does the agency even exist in Arizona. It's way under staffed, probably not adequately funded, and many of the employees are incompetent or act like they don't care. Children are placed in foster homes where they endure neglect and abuse, left in homes with abusive parents or guardians and taken away from loving home environments. How many more children have to suffer or even die before there's a public outcry.

Some of the judges overseeing cases involving family or children are pitiful excuses for justice. They have huge egos, little knowledge of law or any common sense. They are returning children to horrible situations with no basis.

Some of the Pinal County "child advocates" are absolutely pathetic. They get paid to "investigate" and report back to judges. Who's looking in to make sure they are even competent.

PC child support enforcement is another corrupt, incompetent agency. From a womens point all I see employed there are angry women out to stick it to any man they can. A mother not paying court ordered child support is off the hook but they'll suspend a fathers drivers license or lock him up. I have personally been told by employees of this agency to lie on child support paperwork.

Once a child is returned to or placed in an abusive home there's no one to follow up and check in on behalf of these children.

I don't know how some of these alleged "child protectors" sleep at night or are even able to look in the mirror.  

I am going to start with Judge Craig Raymond appointed in 2009 by presiding judge Carter Olson. It is common knowledge that Raymond suffers from "judgitis". Raymond has forgotten that when he's on the bench he serves the public. This judge has a long history of slamming files down, yelling in the court room at whomever he pleases, threatening to lock people up for nothing just because he can and being out of control. Where is the accountability for his behavior. Where is the professionalism as he makes desicions on behalf of children who can not look out for themselves. Where are the advocates and lawyers witnessing judge Raymonds outrageous courtroom behavior and why is nothing being done. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:14:48 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

He's got nothing else going on.

But if he win's it doesn't speak well for AJ.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:11:24 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

So you're ok with tax revenue from liquor, but tax revenue from cannabis is bad?  That's hardly a decent argument.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:07:24 GMT
AJ City Council Candidates

I heard that R E Eck is considering running for AJ City Council again. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 09 Nov 2012 02:41:25 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

More tax revenue for big government and nobody wants more tax revenue than the democratic party.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 09 Nov 2012 02:19:21 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

I'm ok with Joe remaining in office.  I helped out some on the Penzone campaign.  But it didn't work out.  So be it.  Paul, I guess we'll see how that goes.

I used to be a Joe supporter, but I think he's lost focus in his job.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:37:15 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

So why is it that they states want the federal government to step in on some issues, but to but out on others?

It's time the feds changed their archaic law anyhow.  Why should the liquor companies be the only ones allowed to profit off of people who want to partake?  Truth be told, the liquor lobby is one of the biggest contributors that want it kept illegal.  Them and big pharmaceutical companies.  Wonder why?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:34:35 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Exactly Mrs K. If the feds can control state speed limits I am sure they will override this one

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:26:37 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

Yes it was!  The GOP retained control of the House and both Paul and Joe were reelected!

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:19:30 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

If the federal government will allow them to.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:30:30 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

At least Colorado and Washington got it right.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:30:39 GMT
Military endorsements for presidential candidates

You are welcome.  And it looks like other people didn't care about your list either.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:28:26 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

It was a good night.....

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:27:33 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

So you prefer 2 disbarred attorney's who have spent millions hiding their past? Amazing.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:47:52 GMT
Military endorsements for presidential candidates

That was a well thought out rebuttal. Thank you for your deep insights.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:52:53 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

What has been legal is a synthetic form.  Marinol and it's derivetives are not directly from the cannabis plant.  Now if you are talking about the cannabis that the government sends out to glaucoma patients, that's differeent.

I thinks it's way over due to be legalized.  And i don't even smoke.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 04 Nov 2012 04:51:29 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

We keep coming back to the same thing.  Medical marijuana has actually been around for years; legitimate medical use, though, does not include smoking it or eating it.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 04 Nov 2012 00:35:57 GMT
URGENT: A Child Is Missing In San Tan Valley

Yeah I thought I heard the same, that it was a hoax .. certainly not funny!! .. Does anyone know what the teen would be charged with and what the possible sentences could be ? ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:52:22 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I don't buy that for a second. Yes it will reduce the criminal activity.  The violence involves the smuggling operations and the illegal sales and distibution.  There is very little violence involving the legal sale and distribution.  Look at the dispensaries already open in 17 states.  If you buy the propagand that people who grow and sell marijuana will go on to then sell other harder drugs, you are sadly misinformed.

As far as having no medical value:

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/is-marijuana-a-potential-cure-for-cancer/762

 

And if we want to keep cannabis illegal, lets make liquor illegal again as well.  Liquor is responsible for more deaths every year than cannabis ever was.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:27:09 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I understand that people who want to use pot would rather have it 'legal' because it will be easier to get, cheaper, and probably better quality.    But don't pretend that legalization will somehow reduce criminality.... it won't.    People who produce and sell marijuana don't do it because they like marijuana, they do it because they can make money becuase it is illegal.   If you legalize marijuana, those people will not instantly become law abiding, upstanding citizens... they will merely start selling something else that is illegal... that is the business they are in.   They will go on to sell cocaine or heroin, or whatever drugs remain illegal.   If you make ALL drugs legal, they will merely find some other illegal item to sell....  perhaps your stolen property.

And in case anyone is interested in actual medical science, marijuana has been found to increase psychosis in marijuana users; particularly young users.   Also, it seems to reduce the activity levels amoung chronic users.   Consider the impact of increased marijuana usage on those people of limited mental capacity and/or those at the lowest rungs of the socio-economic ladder.   Will those people be better off?   I don't think so.

 

We have enough intoxicants available... do we really need another class of recreational drugs?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:07:44 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I know prohibition is what is going on now. Demand is on the rise and once it is high enough the government will legalize it and tax the he k out of it and all ofthe pot smokers will think they won :-/

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:46:16 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

No thanks.  Can't say I'm the biggest fan of the Dem's either, but I definitey didn't like the way things were going four or five years ago.  Of the two major party candidates, I'd definitely take Obama over Romney.  Romney may be a great business man (and that's debatable) but i don't think he'd make much of a President.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:46:02 GMT
Military endorsements for presidential candidates

Romney's an idiot.  Who cares what all the old retired military guys have to say?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:42:06 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Prohibition is what's going on now.  During prohibition, there was also a lot of violence as people tried to control territory for distribution.  The same is going on today. 

If not legalize it, then at least decriminalize it so people don't go to jail for posessing small amounts.

Even if the price went up some, I bet it's cheaper than doing time.  If alcohol is legal, there is no reason cannabis shouldn't be.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:38:05 GMT
Is Your Kid An e-SMARTkid?

Pretty cool .. Thanks for sharing! ... =0) 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:35:33 GMT
Virginia Ross is the Better Candidate for Pinal County Recorder

"Given Pinal County's tarnished and clouded past, we need a new honest, strong leader.  We do not need a "good ole gal" with a 30-year membership in the "club" whose history is tied to scandal, dishonesty, nepotism, and cover-up.  Accuracy and honesty are at the top of the list of qualifications and administrative goals for any office serving the public, especially regarding voter records and public money. "

By your comment I assume you're speaking of the current recorder? .. It's my understanding she's not seeking re-election and made that clear over a year ago .. I'm just curious why the need for mud slinging? ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:28:50 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

 I'm on N. Apache Trail all the time in a school bus ... there aren't yellow center lines painted but there are those reflector things going down the center .. I know which side of the road to drive on but apparently some people are getting confused .. Has anyone else seen the new improvements on this stretch? ..   and is there any word on the flags that were stolen?..                                                  

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:11:39 GMT
Military endorsements for presidential candidates

Something tells me we could probably add 2 more to the Romney list:

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2012/10/rogue-u-s-general-arrested-for-activating-special-forces-teams-ignoring-libya-stand-down-order-2466104.html

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 02:28:48 GMT
Military endorsements for presidential candidates

With whom do you stand, Partiots?

 

Obama’s Public Military Endorsements:

General Wesley Clark, USA, (Ret)
General Colin Powell, USA (Ret)
Major General Paul Eaton, USA (Ret)
Admiral Donald Gutter, USN, former JAG of the Navy, (Ret)
Admiral John Nathman, USN, (Ret)

Mitt Romney’s Public Military Endorsements:

Admiral James B. Busey, USN, (Ret.)
General James T. Conway, USMC, (Ret.)
General Terrence R. Dake, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral James O. Ellis, USN, (Ret.)
Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, USM, (Ret.)
General Ronald R. Fogleman, USAF, (Ret)
General Tommy Franks, USA, (Ret)
General Alfred Hansen, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald Jackson Hays, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Thomas Bibb Hayward, USN, (Ret)
General Chuck Albert Horner, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Jerome LaMarr Johnson, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Timothy J. Keating, USN, (Ret)
General Paul X. Kelley, USMC, (Ret)
General William Kernan, USA, (Ret)
Admiral George E.R. Kinnear II, USN, (Ret)
General William L. Kirk, USAF, (Ret)
General James J. Lindsay, USA, (Ret)
General William R. Looney III, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Hank Mauz, USN, (Ret)
General Robert Magnus, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral Paul David Miller, USN, (Ret)
General Henry Hugh Shelton, USA, (Ret)
General Lance Smith, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Leighton Smith, Jr., USN, (Ret)
General Ronald W. Yates, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald J. Zlatoper, USN, (Ret)
Lieutenant General James Abrahamson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edgar Anderson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marcus A. Anderson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buck Bedard, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral A. Bruce Beran, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Lyle Bien, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Harold Blot, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General H. Steven Blum, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bowman III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bucchi, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter E. Buchanan III, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard A. Burpee, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Campbell, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General James E. Chambers, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward W. Clexton, Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General John B. Conaway, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marvin Covault, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Terry M. Cross, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William Adam Dougherty, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Brett Dula, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Gordon E. Fornell, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral David Frost, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Henry C. Giffin III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Peter M. Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard D. Herr, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas J Hickey, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter S. Hogle, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Ronald W. Iverson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Donald W. Jones, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Douglas J. Katz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Jay W. Kelley, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Tom Kilcline, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Timothy A. Kinnan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Harold Koenig, M.D., USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Albert H. Konetzni, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buford Derald Lary, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Frank Libutti, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Stephen Loftus, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Michael Malone, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John J. Mazach, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Justin D. McCarthy, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William McCauley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Joseph S. Mobley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Dave R. Palmer, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John Theodore “Ted” Parker, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry L. Parks, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles Henry “Chuck” Pitman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Steven R. Polk, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William E. Ramsey, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Joseph J. Redden, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Clifford H. “Ted” Rees, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edward Rowny, USA (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Dutch Schultz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles J. Searock, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General E. G. “Buck” Shuler, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Alexander M. “Rusty” Sloan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward M. Straw, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General David J. Teal, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Billy M. Thomas, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Donald C. “Deese” Thompson, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Alan S. Thompson, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Herman O. “Tommy” Thomson, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Thurman, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert Allen “R.A.” Tiebout, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John B. Totushek, USNR, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General George J. Trautman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry R. Trexler, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Jerry O. Tuttle, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Claudius “Bud” Watts, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William “Bill” Welser, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thad A. Wolfe, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General C. Norman Wood, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Michael W. Wooley, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard “Rick” Zilmer, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Chris Adams, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry Amos, USN (Ret.)
Major General Nora Alice Astafan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Almon Bowen Ballard, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General James F. Barnette, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Barrow, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John R. Batlzer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jon W. Bayless, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John E. Bianchi, USA, (Ret.)
Major General David F. Bice, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Linda J. Bird, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Black, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Peter A. Bondi, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John L. Borling, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Tom Braaten, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert J. Brandt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jerry C. Breast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Bruce B. Bremner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Brown III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David P. Burford, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Calvert, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay A. Campbell, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry Canterbury, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James J. Carey, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Nevin Carr, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Stephen K. Chadwick, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W. Lewis Chatham, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeffrey G. Cliver, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Casey Coane, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Isaiah C. Cole, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stephen Condon, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard C. Cosgrave, USANG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert Cowley, USN, (Ret.)
Major General J.T. Coyne, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Crates, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James P. Davidson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Kevin F. Delaney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James D. Delk, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay Ronald Denney, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Robert S. Dickman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James C. Doebler, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas O. Dollar, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Hunt Downer, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas A. Dyches, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Jay T. Edwards, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John R. Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Francis L. Filipiak, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Flatley III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Charles Fletcher, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bobby O. Floyd, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Veronica Froman, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Vance H. Fry, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral R. Byron Fuller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George M. Furlong, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Frank Gallo, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ben F. Gaumer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harry E. Gerhard Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Major General Daniel J. Gibson, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Andrew A. Giordano, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard N. Goddard, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fred Golove, USCGR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Eric Grant, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeff Grime, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Kent Guest, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Tim Haake, USAR, (Ret.)
Major General Otto K. Habedank, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Hall, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald P. Harvey, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Leonard W. Hegland, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John A. Hemphill, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Hereth, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Wilfred Hessert, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Hickman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey Higginbotham, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Weldon F. Honeycutt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steve Israel, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James T. Jackson, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John S. Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tim Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ron Jesberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Pierce J. Johnson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven B. Kantrowitz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Kavanaugh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Dennis M. Kenneally, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Michael Kerby, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Kunkel, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey C. Lambert, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Arthur Langston, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas G. Lilly, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James E. Livingston, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Al Logan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John D. Logeman Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Noah H. Long Jr, USNR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Loren, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Andy Love, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas C. Lynch, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven Wells Maas, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert M. Marquette, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Marsh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Clark W. Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General William M. Matz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Gerard Mauer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. McDaniel, MD, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral E.S. McGinley II, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry C. McKinney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Messerli, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas S. Metcalf, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John W. Miller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Patrick David Moneymaker, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Mario Montero, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Douglas M. Moore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Walter Bruce Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General William Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Burton R. Moore, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James A. Morgart, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stanton R. Musser, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Natter, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert George Nester, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General George W. Norwood, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Olsen, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Raymund E. O’Mara, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert S. Owens, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Paddock, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Paret, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert O. Passmore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Earl G. Peck, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard E. Perraut Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gerald F. Perryman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W.W. Pickavance, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John J. Prendergast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fenton F. Priest, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David C. Ralston, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bentley B. Rayburn, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Rich, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Roland Rieve, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tommy F. Rinard, USN , (Ret.)
Major General Richard H. Roellig, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Michael S. Roesner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. Ryan, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Loran C. Schnaidt, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Carl Schneider, USAF , (Ret.)
Major General John P. Schoeppner, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Edison E. Scholes, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. Shumaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William S. Schwob, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General David J. Scott, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hugh P. Scott, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard Secord, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William H. Shawcross, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Joseph K. Simeone, USAF and ANG , (Ret.)
Major General Darwin Simpson, ANG , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Greg Slavonic, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Oliver “D.O.” Smart, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Richard D. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Donald Bruce Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Paul O. Soderberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. “Bob” Spiro, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry B. Stelling, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Daniel H. Stone, USN, (Ret.)
Major General William A. Studer, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hamlin Tallent, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Hugh Banks Tant III, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Larry S. Taylor, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General J.B. Taylor, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas R. Tempel, USA , (Ret.)
Major General Richard L. Testa, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jere Thompson, USN (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Byron E. Tobin, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Larry Twitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Russell L. Violett, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General David E.B. “DEB” Ward, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Charles J. Wax, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald Weatherson, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John Welde, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gary Whipple, USA , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James B. Whittaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Charles Williams, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral H. Denny Wisely, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Theodore J. Wojnar, USCG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George R. Worthington, USN, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur Abercrombie, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John R. Allen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Loring R. Astorino, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Averitt, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Garry S. Bahling, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald E. Barnhart, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Charles L. Bishop, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Clayton Bridges, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jeremiah J. Brophy, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General R. Thomas Browning, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David A. Brubaker, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Chalmers R. Carr, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Fred F. Caste, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Clements, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Christopher T Cline, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Peyton Cole, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard A. Coleman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mike Cushman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Peter Dawkins, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Sam. G. DeGeneres, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Demers, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Howard G. DeWolf, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur F. Diehl, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David Bob Edmonds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Anthony Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Norm Gaddis, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert H. Harkins, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas W. Honeywill, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stanley V. Hood, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General James J. Hourin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack C. Ihle, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas G. Jeter, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General William Herbert Johnson, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Kenneth F. Keller, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Wayne W. Lambert, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jerry L. Laws, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas J. Lennon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John M. Lotz, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert S. Mangum, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Frank Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joe Mensching, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard L. Meyer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Lawrence A. Mitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael P. Mulqueen, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ben Nelson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack W. Nicholson, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Maria C. Owens, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dave Papak, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Gary A. Pappas, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Paschon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allen K. Rachel, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jon Reynolds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Edward F. Rodriguez, Jr., USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Roger Scearce, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dennis Schulstad, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John Serur, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joseph L. Shaefer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Graham Shirley, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Raymond Shulstad, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stan Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ralph S. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David M. Snyder, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael Joseph Tashjian, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Louis Ursone, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Earl Van Inwegen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Terrence P. Woods, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mitchell Zais, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allan Ralph Zenowitz, USA, (Ret.)

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 03 Nov 2012 02:21:59 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Actually prohibition was a huge success for the government. People wanted it abolished so much that they were willing to let the government control who can sell it, charge stores high fees to get a license and charge the consumer an additional tax. The same will happen with pot. Prohibition was a huge success and will be again!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:21:57 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

Prohibition was an abysmal failure. The war on drugs has been also, yet we continue to spend hundreds of millions of dollars fighting a war we can't win. Criminalizing pot has done nothing but fill our prisons with petty criminals and enrich evil drug cartels. It's far past time to admit that the status quo is simply not working.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:53:45 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I think there are already too many pot smokers on this board :)   Some people are certainly on something....Laughing

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:08:27 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

So you want it legalized with FDA approval and monitoring, taxed by the government and obviously more expensive?  Where does the importance of marijuana legalization rank with creating jobs and passing a fair immigration policy?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:33:33 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

So is everyone else afraid to voice their opinion on this subject or what?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:21:06 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

The owners of the Bead Depot are retiring.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:48:26 GMT
Virginia Ross is the Better Candidate for Pinal County Recorder

I was wondering the same thing.  Is this a slam on the current recorder, who is not running for re-election?  Virginia Ross may be very well qualified, but an endorsement like this is not likely to help me decide.  I would actually be more comfortable with a candidate who knows exactly what the county recorder's office does (and doesn't do).

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:45:06 GMT
URGENT: A Child Is Missing In San Tan Valley

Wasn't this fake and now they may charge the kid?  Hope they do end up pressing charges.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:08:55 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

I think I saw a sign saying the bead store was closing....not that I do beads.... guess not enough people do bead work.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:06:19 GMT
Is Your Kid An e-SMARTkid?

Is Your Kid An e-SMARTkid?

Take an interactive journey into e-SMARTkids to engage your child’s imagination with educational games and hands-on activities to use energy safely and responsibly at home and at school. 

 e-SMARTkids is 100% kid-friendly and 100% kid-safe and can be accessed at any time.  Kids will learn where energy comes from, the travels of electricity and natural gas, and so much more.  Have you ever wondered why birds can sit on power lines and not get shocked? Or why natural gas flames are blue? Or whether garbage could someday be a source of energy? Now you can get answers to these and all your energy-related questions. Just Ask an Expert! 

Is your family saving energy at home? Does your family use electricity and natural gas safely?  Using e-SMARTkids home inspection checklists, your family will be able perform home inspections to help identify energy inefficiencies or safety issues.  

 Teachers can also use e-SMARTkids as an instructional tool in the classroom.  e-SMARTkids will enhance classroom learning through science education with standards-based learning using downloaded instructional guides and curriculum-based games and videos.  Teachers can also sign-up to receive a FREE classroom presentation from City of Mesa Energy Resources personnel on how to use natural gas energy safely and responsibly. 

The energy-use habits your kids develop when they are young will stay with them for the rest of their lives.  Visit www.mesaaz.gov/energy to begin your journey. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:46:23 GMT
Natural Gas Meter Safety

Natural Gas Meter Safety

 When it comes to your natural gas meter, you can protect against potentially hazardous situations by following these simple guidelines.  

 Do:

  • Protect your meter from vehicular damage.
  • Call 811 to have underground utilities marked before doing any digging. 
  • Plant trees, shrubs, or plants far enough away from the meter to allow for future growth. 
  • Keep all growth trimmed so meter dials are visible and access to the meter is maintained.

Do not:

  • Stack toys, garden hoses, or other types of equipment on or near the meter.
  • Chain anything to the meter including bikes, boats, or pets.
  • Allow children to sit or play on the meter.
  • Attempt to service or maintain a meter yourself.  Always call the City of Mesa.

Call the City of Mesa at 480-644-4277 (GASS) if you damage the meter or smell gas around the meter.  Call 911 for emergencies.

 For additional safety tips, visit www.mesaaz.gov/energy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:44:55 GMT
Virginia Ross is the Better Candidate for Pinal County Recorder

cactus kinda makes the recorder position sound like a really important position, one that determines the direction of the county as a supervisor would. Wow!

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 17:48:27 GMT
Virginia Ross is the Better Candidate for Pinal County Recorder

Did Virginia approve this ad?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:19:33 GMT
Virginia Ross is the Better Candidate for Pinal County Recorder

Virginia is currently a senior negotiator for IBM.  She has the background, education, training, and professional experience to be not only a top-notch manager, but also a leader who can perceive both opportunities and problems, and develop sound options and solutions.

Given Pinal County's tarnished and clouded past, we need a new honest, strong leader.  We do not need a "good ole gal" with a 30-year membership in the "club" whose history is tied to scandal, dishonesty, nepotism, and cover-up.  Accuracy and honesty are at the top of the list of qualifications and administrative goals for any office serving the public, especially regarding voter records and public money. 

Virginia Ross will bring accuracy, honesty, conservative spending, and competent administrative leadership to the Recorder's office.  She decided to seek election over a year ago and has travelled all over Pinal County, listening to and getting to know the citizens of our county.  She is knowledgeable and forthright with her opinions and ideas.  She presents herself well, demonstrating her command of the issues and her leadership ability. 

Virginia Ross is the better candidate.  We need her in the Pinal County Recorder's office.  She will make us proud and gain respect for our county across the state.

Vote for Virginia Ross for Pinal County Recorder.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:42:07 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

Why does it always seem to me that when someone is driving in the left lane at 60 mph it is generally a PT Cruiser or a Toyota Prius?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:10:18 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

Whatever happened to the basic principle of 'keep right except to pass'?  Bob and Tom radio show used to play a great song 'Blue Hairs  driving in the Left Lane'

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:58:49 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

Barricades wouldn't stop a snowbird from going the wrong way!

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:55:37 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

What do yellow lines have to do with which side?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:53:36 GMT
GOP rape comments

Some people who were readers only have told me that they can't see the forums unless they register.  I've talked to at least one person who, for some reason, can't register.  The new format does not seem as easy to work with as the old.  I kind of miss the local chatter. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:16:25 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

Close, but just not quite the same.

Do people really need yellow lines on the road to know which side they are supposed to drive on?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:14:15 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

LOL GCR you saved the day .. hopefully this will spark some good discussion ..

I was hearing someone express concerns about N. Apache Trail not having the yellow lines painted yet and something about bottoming out their vehicle at the businsses up there .. Does anyone know when the project will be finished ... They were also saying someone was heading in the wrong direction .. that's rather concerning especially with the snowbirds coning in  .. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:55:32 GMT
Apache Junction/Gold Canyon

There a thread just for AJ/GC discussion. Problem solved!

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 02:57:24 GMT
GOP rape comments

That would be my guess.  The "East Valley" covers too much.  AJ has it's own issues and because it's part of Pinal county, has little in common (usually) with the rest of the East Valley.

 

And that was one thing that was "fun" on the old Newszap, people would be going at each others throats in one thread while being in complete agreement with each other on another thread.  It was fun.  This new NZ?  Not so much.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:57:40 GMT
GOP rape comments

Anod, I'm wondering why no one comes here to discuss local issues any more ... most topics seem to be national politics .. Use to be , even if it got heated, folks would talk about current issues in Apache Junction/ Gold Canyon .. Do you think it's because all the east valley is pooled together ? ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:41:56 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I read the story.  Good story.  I'm all in favor of legalization.  Way over due.  Maybe it will be addressed one day soon and all the old propaganda will be laid to rest.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:04:13 GMT
GOP rape comments

This new forum isn't much for discussion.  It's seems to be more of a "hit and run" kind of place.  Not like the old NZ.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:02:25 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

But was a suit ever filed?  I know a notice of claim was subimtted, but have never heard if an actual suit was filed.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:00:06 GMT
GOP rape comments

It seems like baiting is still the favorite MO for some

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:38:13 GMT
GOP rape comments

I have so been hoping for some substantive discussion in the east valley forum.  I noted the same inane comment had been posted in more than one forum, in troll-like fashion.  I had hoped to have a little fun with this. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:42:42 GMT
GOP rape comments

Stupid people aren't worth the effort ;-)

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:04:56 GMT
GOP rape comments

Seven Deadly Sins was a movie ...

Surprisingly no one's made a crack about hating stupid people .. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:59:12 GMT
GOP rape comments

Oh, come on now.  I can see from your previous posts that you seem very interested in the subject of religion (Christianity in particular).  So tell me - where are the seven deadly sins listed in the Bible? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:47:16 GMT
Why Not Legalize Pot?

I have smoked pot.

Not today or this week, or even this month, but I have. I'm telling you this because before I begin talking about the pot-smoking habits of others, I thought it would only be right that I first owned up to my own past use.

Maybe this will encourage others to be a bit more honest because, like it or not, admitting to smoking pot is bound to get a lot less scandalous.

Three states -- Colorado, Washington and Oregon -- have marijuana legalization proposals on the ballot, and it won't be surprising if at least one of them passes. Not medical marijuana, mind you, but the regulation and selling of small quantities for recreational use.

If you thought Nirvana and Pearl Jam put Seattle on the map, legal marijuana will make it out of this world.

And I promise that will be my last pot joke, although being silly about pot illustrates why it's taken this long for the country to begin adult conversations about marijuana, and not just knee-jerk rhetoric based on fear instead of facts. When President Nixon signed the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act, officially starting the so-called war on drugs, it was largely in response to pot-smoking hippies and Vietnam vets coming home addicted to heroin.

Nixon budgeted $100 million to fight what he called public enemy No. 1 -- illegal drugs. In 2010, it was $15 billion. A trillion dollars has been spent on the war on drugs since it began.

Two government reports released last year had difficulty proving the billions being spent are making a big difference.

In 1970, the federal government listed pot to be more harmful than cocaine and meth. We now know that isn't true. That's not to say legalizing pot is without risks; it has been shown to impair concentration. But one study found alcohol was by far the most dangerous drug, followed by heroin and crack. Weed rated far down the list.

So why do we continue to allow the Nixon administration's hatred of hippies to influence what we think about drug usage today?

I don't know how much or how little tax revenue is actually going to come from state-sanctioned pot, but to me that's not the point.

The issue isn't how much money the government can make from pot sales, but rather, are the reasons why pot was originally classified as illegal still valid today? Now that we have studies that debunk the myth of longtime impairment from using pot, now that we see how ineffective the government has been in keeping pot off the streets, now that we have seen the gangland violence of drug cartels, should we still be looking at marijuana the way we did 40 years ago?

In the 1928 presidential election, Herbert Hoover crushed his opponent, Al Smith, winning 40 states, in part because Smith was demonized as "the cocktail president." Smith was in favor of repealing the 18th Amendment -- Prohibition -- while Hoover believed he must enforce the law. It's hard to imagine today, but alcohol was so vilified then there was an actual Prohibition Party dedicated to keeping it illegal. Members even endorsed their own candidate for president.

Yet, just five years after that election, alcohol was legal. And even though Hoover lost his bid for re-election, he did so supporting the repeal.

That's how quickly things can change.

And that bit of history is what makes the results of these three states so fascinating. No one expects President Obama or Mitt Romney to come out in support of legalized marijuana within the next few days, but what will the conversation be like four years from now?

If the nation can go from upholding Prohibition to "drink up" in an election cycle, why couldn't 2016 feature the first pro-pot president? Especially if next week's results are, shall we say, favorable? Voting for a candidate solely because he or she lets you light up is stupid, but if all other things are equal, are we ready to vote to legalize marijuana the way our grandparents voted to legalize alcohol?

I think we are, but then one could say I'm a bit biased.

 Story from CNN.COM

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:59:13 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

The Ecks' case against Babeu is about malicious prosecution, filing criminal charges when there was no reason to do so.  Outcome of a civil case won't have any bearing on that. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:31:39 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Ok, in all fairness, I'll just say that my comments are in reagrds to this case and this case only.  In any other aspect of life, I have no judgement for or against the Ecks.  

I don't really think that this settlement is going to help their case against the sheriff at all.  And was there ever a suit filed or just notice of claim?  I hadn't heard anything after noctice of claim.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:35:09 GMT
GOP rape comments

Awesome!  Where is that found in the Bible?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:11:16 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

Is that a threat or a promise, anod?   Compared to today, 20 years ago looks pretty good in many respects.   We didn't have as much debt, poverty, or unemployment.  Gas prices were lower, real estate was a decent investment.   Your idea to vote the Republicans back in sounds pretty good.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:14:33 GMT
GOP rape comments

Gluttony is one of the 7 deadly sins.

Gluttony - excessive eating and drinking

Being gay, however is not one of the 7 deadly sins

That being said.....God Hates Fat People!

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:22:11 GMT
GOP rape comments

Care to elaborate on that?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:06:14 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Far as I know the case against Babeu is still out there.  Yes, I heard about the Progressive case.  Shortly after the publicity hit the air waves, I believe they paid the claim.  Some states have laws that dictate certain claims practices.  I believe that was the case in that particular situation.  Without knowing the full background on it, it's difficult to comment.  However, the full details would probably not make sense to anyone but an insurance professional or an attorney.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:03:56 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

How about Babeu?  And I don't know the answer Smile

Talking about insurance companies---did you hear Progressive sent a lawyer to the defendents case that ran over a woman so they wouldn't have to pay?  Progressive was the woman's who died insurance company.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/family-woman-killed-car-crash-accuses-insurer-defending/story?id=17002650

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:44:48 GMT
GOP rape comments

"God hates fat people"

                                                                                     - Deadly Sin

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:08:46 GMT
Blame The Media!

Well, it's over. Or almost over, thank God. It looks like Obama will probably win, which I guess is good news, compared to the alternative – a Mitt Romney presidency would have felt like four straight years of waking up with a naked Lloyd Blankfein sitting on your face. But it's not so much the result that matters – it's the quiet.

What we Americans go through to pick a president is not only crazy and unnecessary but genuinely abusive. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent in a craven, cynical effort to stir up hatred and anger on both sides. A decision that in reality takes one or two days of careful research to make is somehow stretched out into a process that involves two years of relentless, suffocating mind-warfare, an onslaught of toxic media messaging directed at liberals, conservatives and everyone in between that by Election Day makes every dinner conversation dangerous and literally divides families.

Politicians are much to blame for this, but we in the media have to take responsibility for the damage we do to the American psyche in the name of election coverage. At this very moment, there are people all over the country who are stocking up on canned goods and ammo for the apocalypse they believe will come if Obama is re-elected. For the broadcast business to be successful, viewers need to be not merely interested in our political melodramas, they have to be in an absolute state about them – emotionally invested in the outcome and frightened not to watch what happens next. And any person who's been subjected to 720 consecutive days of propaganda is not likely to take the news well if he gets the wrong result, whether it's a victory for Obama or for Romney. By that point, the networks have spent two years finding new ways each day to convince him that the world is going to disintegrate into some commie or Hitlerian version of Mad Max, to keep him coming back and watching ads.

The campaign should start and finish in six weeks, and there should be free TV access to both candidates. And it should be illegal to publish poll numbers. This isn't as crazy as it sounds – they actually had such a law in Russia while I lived there, and people were much happier. (Well, they were still miserable, because they were Russian, but at least they weren't stressing about poll numbers.) Think about it: Banning poll numbers would force the media to actually cover the issues. As it stands now, the horse race is the entire story – I can think of a couple of cable networks that would have to go completely dark tomorrow, as in Dan-Rather-Dead-F*cking-Air dark, if they had to come up with even 10 seconds of news content that wasn't centered on who was winning. That's the dirtiest secret we in the media have kept from you over the years: Most of us suck so badly at our jobs, and are so uninterested in delving into any polysyllabic subject, that we would literally have to put down our shovels and go home if we didn't have poll numbers we can use to terrify our audiences. Can you imagine if your favorite news network had to do stories like, "What is the Overseas Private Investment Corporation up to, and what do each of the candidates think about it?" That would be like asking Nineties-era baseball players to take the field without popping greenies – what, you mean play the game sober? Half the on-air talent would have to resign, or do ad work hawking reverse mortgages.

It obviously matters who gets to be president. And it's perfectly valid for us media types to advocate for the candidate we think is more qualified, based on our reporting. But the hype has gotten so out of control, it's become bigger than the presidency itself. In every race there are now not two but three dominating figures – the Democrat, the Republican and The Process, and we're raising whole generations who hate The Process far more than they like either of the candidates. Mainly for grim commercial reasons, we in the media manipulate people to stay wired on hate and panic-focused on the race for every waking moment, indifferent to how much this depresses the hell out of everyone. In doing so, we rob people of their patriotism and their desire to vote. If The Process is so clearly wrong, how right can the candidates be?

If we did this right, people would come out of presidential elections exhilarated, maybe even stoked to get involved in their local races for county sheriff or D.A. (Such races would likely have more of an impact on their day-to-day lives: For the most part, when it comes to our daily routines, the president might as well be on Mars.) Instead, most of us come out of the election exhausted, in desperate need of a couple of Ambiens and determined to spend the next two years buried in Hulu reruns, afraid to even pass a news channel while couch-surfing our way to Storage Wars or a Lifetime movie.

What makes us feel pessimistic about the world, ultimately, is the way the media encourage us to believe that our fate hangs on the every move of the promise-breaking, terminally disappointing Teflon liars in Washington. And that's a shame, because feeling optimistic shouldn't require turning off the TV or tuning out The Process. What we are witnessing, after all, is the world's greatest contest for power, an amazing fairy tale full of iconic moments that we'll watch no matter how much Sean Hannity or Chris Matthews screams at us. But it would be awesome, next time, if we could find a way to turn down the volume.

 

                                                           - Matt Taibbi Rolling Stone Magazine Oct. 25,2012

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:28:57 GMT
GOP rape comments

As a woman who has been around the block a time or two, I wish that we as women would grow up and start exercising our choices before we get pregnant.  When I was young, we were fed a pretty steady diet of feminist crap - and it was just that.  I just wish I'd had the knowledge and experience to see it then.  Young girls need to be taught a new way of thinking.  I finally stopped thinking of myself as a perpetual victim when I was about 40 years old.  Much too late.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:40:09 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Insurance companies settle claims all the time.  They have a way of encouraging their clients to enter into settlement agreements (insurance policies are contracts, after all, with rights and responsibilities placed on each party).  Calling people trash, though, is a good way to start a bunch of chatter from people who know more details and are just keeping quiet, though.  I'd rather not go there. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:35:05 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

And the case against Babeu??

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:41:34 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Yeah, I knew the answer.  So what?  Grow up?  Really?  Why don't you quit defending the trash better know as the Ecks?  They made all kinds of outlandish claims and have now back off of every one of them.  So yeah, I knew the answer.  And I'm glad it turned out the way it did.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:07:21 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

So you knew the answer to your question before coming here to ask about the case .... then came here to rehash and shove it down the Ecks throat that a settlement was reached after they said they'd never settle .. wow, really? ..

Maybe the insurance company decided it was quicker/cheaper/easier to offer a small settlement than to drag this on for another decade, or maybe the Eck family would rather put this behind them and move on ... as you stated "who cares", it's over now .. for this family anyway, until he finds his next vicitm - seems this guy has a history of insurance claims and laws suits .. hopefully you won't be his next one ..

You got your little jab, feel better now? .. grow up, seriously ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:14:25 GMT
GOP rape comments

Anybody voting for the Republican party is willing to set woman's right's back 20-40 years.  And forget some of the other social issues they are willing to throw out,

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:35:33 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

From what I've seen, I know I could sure have quite a bit of fun on the first installment.  And who cares how much it was?  I thought the Eck's said there was no way in hell they were going to settle?  What happened to that?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:33:15 GMT
Frankenstorm Hurricane Sandy Conspiracy Time

Could this be a man made storm? If you know anything about Haarp it is a possibility. Haarp stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, look it up.Could it have been made to effect the election in some weird way? Who it could effect I'm not sure, I have not looked that far into it yet. They did name it Frankenstorm after Frankenstein a man made monster. Let see what it effects. This could get interesting.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 28 Oct 2012 03:52:28 GMT
GOP rape comments

1. Todd Akin: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways of shutting that whole thing down” - mid 2012 Senate Campaign

2. Clayton Williams: “If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it” - mid 1990 Gubernatorial race in Texas

3.  Chuck Winder: “I would hope that when a woman goes in to a physician with a rape issue, that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage or was it truly caused by a rape. I assume that’s part of the counseling that goes on.” - March 2012

4.  Ken Buck: “A jury could very well conclude that this is a case of buyer’s remorse … It appears to me … you invited him over… the appearance is of consent.” - October 2010

5. Rick Santorum: “I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you… rape victims should make the best of a bad situation.” - January, 2012

6.Richard Mourdock: “life is that gift from God,” and “even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”

You got to watch this video and if you are a women or a man that actually gives a shit about a womens right to choice this is doomsday for the Romney Ryan ticket! http://current.com/shows/the-young-turks/videos/keeping-it-real-tyt-exposes-romneyryan-extreme-rape-and-abortion-policies-in-a-new-ad

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:05:53 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

What I heard is, the amount of the settlement (after the attorney gets his share), isn't enough to have much fun on.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:22:52 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Word I got was the Eck's admitted fault and settled.  So who put who through hell?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:22:42 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Any news on the 2.1 million claim the Ecks brought up against Babeu (that the taxpayers will have to pay if won)? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:13:13 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

I certainly do remember .. needlessly put the entire Eck family through 2 years of pure hell ... charges against Mr Eck were dropped and I believe the whole civil suit has ended with no monetary gain on either side.. Perhaps Mrs. Eck will chime in and give an update ..

The entire thing turned out to be a waste of time, money and effort for nothing more than the opportunity to harass the hell out of a Councilman and his family ...

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:18:42 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

Yeah, ok, let's vote the Republican's back in and go back in time twenty + years.  

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:20:35 GMT
Eck /Martinez Case

Anybody remember this case and have any idea what happened?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:19:08 GMT
URGENT: A Child Is Missing In San Tan Valley

I'm hearing the child was found, safe ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:41:35 GMT
URGENT: A Child Is Missing In San Tan Valley

Plesae Share the link:

URGENT: A Child Is Missing In San Tan Valley

 

This is a valid missing child case in San Tan Valley that just was put out. PLEASE SHARE.

Pinal County Sheriff's Office, AZ
Type of Case: Missing Child
Date Launched: Tuesday, October 23, 2012

A Child Is Missing: This is an urgent message from the Pinal County Sheriff's Office. We are searching for a Missing Child in your area. The Person's name is: Samantha White, an 15 year old White Female with Blonde hair and Blue eyes, approximately 4 feet 11 inches tall, 98 Pounds

. She was last seen wearing: Black Tank Top w/ Glitter and Gray Sweatpants with black flip flops. She was last seen near: 35458 N Richardson Dr in San Tan Valley AZ; Today; Tuesday October 23 2012 at 6:45AM. We need your help. Please check your yard, complex and vehicle.

If you have any information about Samantha White, please call the Pinal County Sheriff's Office at 480-268-0571.

http://www.achildismissing.org/alerts.asp

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:08:11 GMT
Board of Supervisors bail out Boo boo Babeu deficit

Paul Babeu stated his budget was balanced and had a surplus! 

 

If he had a bail out then the statement was another lie, Plain and simple!

 

Fact PCSO was Bailed out by the Board of Supervisors! Fact Sheriff Paul Babeu has been lying about the budget to the Citizens about the budget being balanced and having a surplus!

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:55:39 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

He is by far the lesser of 2 evils. I'll grant you that, and will be holding my nose as I pull the lever for him.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:51:47 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

Yes, he's not the most conservative guy that could be elected, but it takes time for the electorate to change course.   If this is the first of many 'less liberal' presidents, we might be able to improve our economy and our budget issues over time.   When you consider the alternate choice in November, it's an easy decision.   It's a relative choice.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:31:02 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

Romney is a progressive. One need only look at his record of governance in MA to see that. We're being sold down the river... again.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:35:35 GMT
Citizens Initiative - Prop 121 - Open Elections/Open Government

Prop 121, also on Nov. ballot, promises "open elections and open government ...

http://www.azsos.gov/election/2012/Info/PubPamphlet/Sun_Sounds/english/prop121.htm

Sounds like a good idea from the initial readings ..

Any opinions/info for or against Prop 121? ..

heres some links :

http://www.saveourvoteaz.com/

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Arizona_%22Open_Government_Act%22_Initiative,_Proposition_121_%282012%29

http://www.insidetucsonbusiness.com/opinion/columnists/carol_west/prop-would-change-the-way-we-do-primary-elections/article_ffc0260e-1963-11e2-b2da-0019bb2963f4.html

http://www.westernfreepress.com/2012/10/12/will-arizonas-proposition-121-hurt-or-help-political-parties/

http://www.kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=798&ArticleID=53048

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:28:23 GMT
Board of Supervisors bail out Boo boo Babeu deficit

I think all county departments rely on the Board of Superviors for their revenue, don't they?    

I guess he was right all along when he said; "My budget is balanced..."    It just took the BOS a little longer than usual to fund the PCSO since they were hoping that they could damage the Sheriff politically.   Now that the handwriting is on the wall regarding his almost certain re-election, they have decided to balance the books as they should have....   What has changed since this issue was first raised?   Nothing but the calendar.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:45:22 GMT
Pinal County School Superintendent, Recorder, Assessor

I have to admit I haven't researched the race for Superintedent yet .. guess I better get busy ..

Thanks for sharing  Smile

I've met/heard both Kelly and Wolfe .. I think they both have the background, Kelly certainly has the experience .. empty promises are deal breakers for me ...

Wish more people were posting here, it's a shame it seems the EV forum is drying up ..

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:59:00 GMT
Pinal County School Superintendent, Recorder, Assessor

I am pretty sure that I saw on Wolf's campaign sign something along the lines of lower taxes.....um how is he going to accomplish that by being the Assessor? Or is it just to sway voters who don't know that the Assessor doesn't have anything to do with tax rates?  Is he going to lower the valuation of the homes?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:03:28 GMT
Board of Supervisors bail out Boo boo Babeu deficit

I think you are right, that he will be reelected

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:00:59 GMT
Board of Supervisors bail out Boo boo Babeu deficit

To the tune of $888thousand plus dollars. And boo boo takes no responsibility for the shortfall. This makes 2 years in a row. And the sad part is that the fiscally irresponsible POS will probably get re-elected.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 19 Oct 2012 02:55:59 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

"Too liberal" for conservatives does not a Liberal make. I think in this case what it makes is a mormon with a dream and working his way to being god of his own planet and whatever it takes. All's fair in venture capitalism eh. Given mitt the twit is not the brightest bulb in the conservative string, who else is starting to think that perhaps mitt's underpanties can do magic tricks.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:23:51 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

Oh, it's pated to the north valley issues as well,,,,

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:01:31 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

Ken, jump over to the west valley threads. You will find the same thread with a different twist of some back peadaling, "if Romney wins"

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:00:05 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

Yeah Ken, I read it, that's why I post it. I've supposed Romney to be a closet liberal for a long time.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:30:55 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

Man... you REALLY know how to use that mouse!  Do you actually read the stuff you copy from one window to the other?  Do you have any thoughts about it?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:12:28 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

 

Mitt Romney, the Liberal Swine Conservatives Love

Romney is making flip-floppers of the entire conservative movement.

A few months ago conservatives were bashing Mitt Romney with such vigor they made a Mongol invasion look genteel. To Deroy Murdock of National Review, “Willard Mitt Romney’s latest flip flop” reminded him of Andy Warhol’s quip: “That’s not fake. It’s real plastic.” Compared to Romney, Murdock wrote, “I have seen mannequins in less empty suits.” Mona Charen, another National Review regular, spoke on behalf of all right-thinking people when she said positions such as Romney’s “make our hearts sink.” Victor Davis Hanson, also of National Review, termed Romney the “castor oil candidate.”

At TownHall.com – a clearinghouse of conservative opinion – Ben Shapiro compared Romney to Harold Hill, the “big city con man” of musical fame: “Romney has somehow suckered much of the conservative world into believing that he is a solid fiscal, social and foreign policy conservative” when, in reality, Romney is an “all out liberal.” Romney is “about as strong a social conservative,” he went on, “as RuPaul” – the country’s most famous drag queen.

On the same site, you could read “The Conservative Case Against Mitt Romney,” which argued that the Mittster “is a deeply flawed candidate. . . . this IS NOT someone conservatives should want” as their nominee. “You can’t fall in love with a weathervane,” agreed John Hawkins of Right Wing News, who offered “7 Reasons Why Mitt Romney’s Electability Is a Myth.”  “Romney is not a conservative,” declared Rush Limbaugh. “He’s not, folks.”

What a difference a nomination makes.

Limbaugh recently confessed Romney is still not his idea of an ideal nominee. But that hasn’t stopped him from sticking up for the GOP’s standard-bearer. For example, he says Romney’s speech to the NAACP left the listeners unimpressed because it was “over these people’s heads.”

Other conservatives have fallen in line, too. As Romney was wrapping up the Republican nomination, The Washington Post helped solidify Republican support by running a hit piece about Romney’s youth. “New ‘Scandal’: Romney Pulled Pranks, Bullied Someone in High School,” scoffed Guy Benson on TownHall.com – along with just about every other card-carrying conservative in the country.

Some conservatives have gushed so effusively about the candidate they make North Korea’s news agency sound like a model of restraint. Romney's views on immigration are “wildly popular with Americans,” according to Ann Coulter.  “In his passionate affirmation of the American can-do spirit,” ran a piece last week on TownHall, “Governor Romney is a man who has found his moment.” The noble greatness of our heroic champion inspires tears of boundless joy in all the people.

Romney is “all about winning the future,” according to Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review. Just “take a look at his successful business decisions, his ‘turnaround’ of the scandal-crippled Olympics, or his time in Massachusetts.” His undying feats will live on in our hearts forever.

Some of this is to be expected. Politics is a team sport, and cheerleaders are supposed to root for their team regardless of the starting lineup. Still, politics also is supposed to have some meaning beyond merely racking up wins – and the sudden, marked shift in tone on the right has about it a certain whiff of “We’ve always been at war with Eastasia,” no?

True, not all conservatives are writing mash notes to Mitt. The rest of them are dashing off screeds denouncing the perfidy of Barack Obama or defending Romney from the “demonic” left (“Romney Fights Back” – Victor Davis Hanson, National Review; “Target: Ann Romney” – ibid).  Likewise, those liberals who aren’t busy glorifying the record of their own Dear Leader are obsessing about what’s hidden in Romney’s tax returns.

Visit any political website these days, and you’ll find a cornucopia of news and commentary aimed at exposing just how terrible Those People are. As Jonas Kaplan, a professor of political psychology, puts it: “In the political process, people come to decisions early on and then spend the rest of the time making themselves feel good about their decision.”

Conservatives aren’t going to vote for Obama. Therefore they have to vote for Romney. Ergo, they need to find a reason to. That isn’t easy. And it’s especially hard because it requires them to do the one thing they most revile Romney for: change positions for the sake of political expedience.

“Willard Mitt Romney” is making flip-floppers of them all.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:56:40 GMT
Mitt Romney, The Closet Liberal

The most prominent candidate for the GOP nomination is former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. He’s a prolific fundraiser and enjoys widespread name recognition, and he’s the darling of the GOP establishment. George Will lists him as one of the few serious presidential candidates.

But should Romney be the GOP’s presidential nominee? The answer is “absolutely not.”

Although there is no “perfect conservative,” and although conservatives have serious issues with every candidate running, Mitt Romney is nothing more than a strident liberal masquerading as a moderate. As Selwyn Duke rightly wrote in 2007, Romney is the Barack Obama of the GOP. Every Republican has made his share of mistakes, but Romney is a committed liberal on the whole spectrum of issues.

Conservatives know that Romney was pro-abortion for a long time before he first ran for the presidency in 2007, at which time he “changed his position” because he was now asking for the votes of conservatives. Romney has also supported “gay rights,” and as Massachusetts governor, he implemented same-sex marriage by executive fiat.

In 2004, the MA Supreme Court ruled that the state’s marriage law was unconstitutional — but the Court did not rule, contrary to what is claimed, that gay marriage must be legalized and that the state constitution contains a “right” to marry. Yet, as soon as the ruling was issued, Romney commanded state agencies, by executive order, to start issuing marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

Romney is stridently liberal on fiscal and economic issues. He did not initially support the Bush tax cuts; he has long opposed (and continues to oppose) the flat tax, calling it “a tax cut for fat cats”; he used fee hikes and “loophole-closing measures” to balance the Massachusetts state budget; and when he found items in it which he deemed wasteful or unneccessary, such as $30 million per year for hotel rooms for homeless people, he spent such sums on something else rather than use them to balance the budget.

Mitt believes that anthropogenic global warming is real and that humanity must act urgently to stop it. In 2005, he even claimed that a cap-and-tax scheme would be “good for business.” But as hundreds of scientists, including AT contributor Dr. S. Fred Singer, have stated, anthropogenic global warming is a myth; humanity exerts little, if any, influence over this planet’s climate, which changes naturally from time to time. Why would the GOP nominate a candidate who believes in the global warming scam?

Romney also supports lavish ethanol subsidies and nonethanol farm subsidies (CNN Youtube Debate, Part 5, 6:06), probably to pander to agricultural states like Iowa, even though ethanol has not decreased America’s degree of dependence on imported oil, gets poorer mileage than standard gasoline, and is more harmful for the environment. To obtain the biological material for ethanol, to produce the fuel, and to transport it (with big, polluting trucks), you have to expend as much oil as ethanol replaces. No wonder why John Stossel has listed the “Ethanol is great!” claim as #1 on his top-ten list of “myths, lies, and downright stupidities.”

Of course, no discussion of Romney’s big-government record can be complete without a mention of the Massachusetts socialized medicine scheme he championed and signed into law, with a grinning Ted Kennedy in the background.

Romney protests that this scheme was a valid exercise in federalism, while Obama’s federal scheme is an unacceptable federal intrusion. But conservatives should not allow Romney to lead them into the federalism trap.

In America, every state is free to choose its own policy on many issues. However, no state has the right to infringe the personal and economic liberties of individual Americans. No state has the right to require its citizens to buy insurance policies or to otherwise dictate how Americans may live. A state tyranny is just as bad as a federal tyranny, and the Tenth Amendment is no excuse for the former. Moreover, it is no excuse for any failed scheme — and Romney’s scheme has utterly failed in Massachusetts, with costs rising and threatening to bankrupt the state budget. Now Romney advisor Mike Leavitt is telling Republicans to suck it up.

The biggest problem with Obama’s socialized medicine scheme is not that it has been imposed at the federal level, but that it’s socialized. Likewise, the biggest problem with Romney’s scheme, which could cost him the nomination, is that it represents socialized medicine. And as Vladimir Lenin has said, “socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of a socialist state.”

We conservatives value individual liberties (personal and economic freedoms alike) above states’ rights and the federal government. We believe that every American should be free to do as he pleases, as long as he doesn’t threaten anyone else, but should also bear his personal responsibilities. Under what constitutional provision should taxpayers be forced to pay for bloated entitlement schemes like Romney’s and Obama’s plans, which benefit someone else?

This is a product of the socialist “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” ideology.

David Axelrod has admitted that Romney’s scheme served as “a template” for Obama’s. Even Rep. Paul Ryan, who likes Mitt Romney, admits that the two schemes are “not that dissimilar.” Obama has already warned that he will denounce any Republican who has implemented a socialized medicine scheme as governor (if Republicans nominate a governor) as a hypocrite. And Obama would be right to do so. How can Romney credibly condemn the president for a socialized medicine scheme, bloated government spending, and policies causing high energy prices when Romney himself is on record as supporting all of these policies? He can’t, and Obama will have unlimited money with which to make that point.

And, as Doug Brady points out, President Romney would not stop America’s march to socialism and shrink the federal government. In the best case, he would only halt it, and with it, America’s decline. But there’s no reason to doubt that he will flip-flop again and insist that Obama’s schemes are salvageable, if only he’s be there to do the right trimming around the edges.

It is nonsense to claim that Romney, as a “moderate,” can appeal to centrist/independent voters and thus win the election. Independents don’t vote for Republicans who are not significantly different from their Democratic rivals. Romney is, on the issues, so aligned with Obama that there’s no real difference between them. When faced with a choice between a liberal Democrat and a liberal Republican, Americans always choose the Democrat (vide 1976, 1992, 1996, and 2008). An overt RINO can never defeat a Democrat.

The reason why Romney is even considered for the nomination is because of his name recognition, establishment pedigree, the establishment’s praise for him, and liberal media propaganda. The MSM wants to make sure that Romney becomes the nominee because he would be the easiest candidate for Obama to beat. Team Obama is already praying that Romney crosses the finish line first.

It’s time to stand up to the GOP establishment and say “no to Mitt Romney as the GOP nominee!”

By Zbigniew Mazurak

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:44:13 GMT
Pinal County School Superintendent, Recorder, Assessor

Superintendent Race

Jill Broussard  vs Orlenda Roberts

Roberts has way more experience than Broussard.  I will be voting for Roberts.

http://www.roberts4superintendent.com/

 

Anybody have any thoughts on Recorder- Ross vs Kelly or Assessor -Wolf vs Robbins?

 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:38:45 GMT
If Mitt Romney Won't Tell You Which Corrupt Tax Loopholes Need to Be Closed, We Will

ken,

 

It is not like the East Valley is thriving with back and forth dialog.  Maybe 2 gave us something to talk about.  Those deductions are an eye opener.  Didn't know most of them..just like Mitt I guess he better get another accountant since he said you can't deduct shipping off jobs.  Country music stars...wow...too bad I can't sing. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:22:26 GMT
If Mitt Romney Won't Tell You Which Corrupt Tax Loopholes Need to Be Closed, We Will

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Clinton(D) who repealed Glass-Steagall, opening the door for these derivatives to exist in the first place? Wasn't it Barney Frank(D) who said this in 2003?

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:29:33 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:16:10 GMT
Joe Biden knocked it out of the park!

Wow. Did we watch the same debate? I thought Ryan was a bit monotone and Biden demonstrated what a complete he is.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:14:30 GMT
2012 Haunted HOWL-O-WEEN at San Tan Mountain Regional Park

It's that time of year again! Bring the family out to San Tan Mountain Regional Park for this years Friends of the San Tan Mountain Regional Park Haunted HOWL-O-WEEN event on Oct. 27 from 6-9pm.

This year you can even buy advanced tickets at the park. Get the low down on this traditional Family Friendly event here.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:55:02 GMT
The Fair Tax Plan; Your Money, Your Decision

Found several other links and there's plenty more if googled:

http://www.moneycrashers.com/fair-tax-act-explained-pros-cons/

http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201104220008

http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspinning_the_fairtax.html

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/taxes/a/aafairtax.htm

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h25/show

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.25:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxBJ7n0T8U

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:18:38 GMT
The Fair Tax Plan; Your Money, Your Decision

A lot of questions but It certainly does sound like a fair idea off the top tho I doubt the IRS staff would think so. Hopefully there's more info to be found. Thanks for the point Christa_R

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:49:58 GMT
The Fair Tax Plan; Your Money, Your Decision

Been reading about the "Fair Tax" proposal  ..

Check it out here - www.fairtax.org  and here - http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=HowFairTaxWorks

It sounds like a good idea right off but personally I like to investigate and digest something before jumping on the bandwagon. I'm hoping this will spark some interesting thoughts and conversation ..

So,  what's your opinion on this Fair Tax - good.. bad .. why? 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:22:42 GMT
If Mitt Romney Won't Tell You Which Corrupt Tax Loopholes Need to Be Closed, We Will

MaxB, When you want to join a serious debate, please bring facts rather than Democrat talking points; they never hold up on their own.   Can you provide any viable source for: "And now the country has romney proposing/promising more of the same. Free rein for corporations and their wealthy owners is what got the country into trouble in the first place."    

You can't.   I know you can't because I heard directly from Romney on this topic and your statement is not factual, it is merely what you think might appeal to the ignorant.   After enduring the last four years of Obama, we don't have to guess what might happen or what policy he might pursue, we have first hand knowledge.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:09:02 GMT
If Mitt Romney Won't Tell You Which Corrupt Tax Loopholes Need to Be Closed, We Will

The United States economy experienced a crisis in 2008 led by a derivatives market and subprime mortgage crisis, and a declining dollar value.[55] On December 1, 2008, the NBER declared that the United States entered a recession in December 2007, citing employment and production figures as well as the third quarter decline in GDP.[56]  

A central feature of the U.S. economy is the economic freedom afforded to the private sector by allowing the private sector to make the majority of economic decisions in determining the direction and scale of what the U.S. economy produces.

So many administrations to blame but the 2008 does remove the Obama administration from that particular list. And now the country has romney proposing/promising more of the same. Free rein for corporations and their wealthy owners is what got the country into trouble in the first place. Once screwed I would think/hope twice shy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 13 Oct 2012 07:31:48 GMT
If Mitt Romney Won't Tell You Which Corrupt Tax Loopholes Need to Be Closed, We Will

You are aware that we all have the Internet and can read this on our own.   Most of us are hear to discuss what WE think about various issues, not what someone else has written.   If you have a point to make, you'll be more effective if you tell us about it from your perspective.

Let me try to get you jump started.  Here's one of many items you cut 'n pasted above: 

Texas ultimately won by offering $227 million in subsidies. The state had purchased the right to host 2,000 workers at a plant in San Antonio — at a cost of $110,000 per job. Yet for America as a whole, the deal was a spectacular loss.

Why was this a loser for America?  In my opinion, it's great example of competition between the states.  Competition is good... right?   It generally leads to a better product offered at lower prices.   Toyota had a need for a more favorable business environment and several states expressed a desire to host Toyota.   Clearly an analysis of the business activity created by a successful, major automaker revealed that it would be an economic boon to the area.   Economic boons create a secondary boon of tax revenue which can keep tax rates down and attract even more business activity.  How would this equation change if Texas advertised that they were considering rasing their corporate tax rate and they might require corporations to provide expensive benefits (regardless of corporate profitability), and they further decided to throw in some EPA regulations that would be expensive?

Texas, and some of the other states you mentioned, have learned that the secret to a robust economy is to make it very attractive to businesses.  If only we had that same objective at the federal level... can you even imagine the reaction in the economy.   There are trillions of dollars in corporate coffers waiting for an environment to provide a return on their investment.  I think we should find a way to fulfill their needs which will employ more people, reduce poverty, and improve the standard of living of most.

Or, we can re-elect Obama and keep doing what we are doing; maintain a shrinking workforce and a growth rate too tepid to sustain our country.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 13 Oct 2012 06:18:43 GMT
Joe Biden knocked it out of the park!

WOW JOE!  Like Joe said the FACTS count.  The people of America know how to vote now.  Go Democrats!  I like what John Stewart said about what Paul Ryan was coached to do was "not to look like a weasel".   That's great.  Ryan does look like a weasel.  Ryan looked like a foolish little boy next to Joe Biden. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:37:01 GMT
The Big CON

If you believe that Steele, Rather, and Maddow are evidence of journalism at MSNBC, then you have either missed the point entirely or you don't know what the word 'journalism' means.   My suggestion was for you to balance your input between liberal and conservative, not between liberals who sit around and agree with each other.   My guess is that you don't understand the conservative ideology except what you have heard about it from liberals.  When you repeast statements such as; "So I have to ask this question:  How could anyone except the billionaires that are buying this country vote for these Republicans?" you prove that you don't undertand conservatism or economics.  

The talking heads at MSNBC never discuss an opposing point of view with anyone who can articulate it fairly.    MSNBC is merely an arm of the Democrat party and they don't even pretend to be reporting or educating.   You hear the same stuff every night from the same people.  Seriously, if you spend time understanding conservatism, at least you can decide if it is a reasonable alternative.   Most of the country is either moderately or mostly conservative and the minority liberals try to bolster their ranks by only discussing liberal ideas.  In other words, you have been duped -- but the good news is that you can learn your way back to sanity.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:48:42 GMT
The Big CON

Dumbjames....Ken Steel was the chairman for the RNC.  He works for MSNBC.  You must have mist it.  Rachel Maddow has Dan Rather on all the time.  Rachel has a Doctors Degree in journalism and she is the best investigative reporter on TV... she has an award to prove it.....  So really we can not have an intelligent argument until you get some facts. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:03:41 GMT
If Mitt Romney Won't Tell You Which Corrupt Tax Loopholes Need to Be Closed, We Will

This from the New Times & Chris Parker:

A year ago, Citizens for Tax Justice, a Washington nonprofit, studied the tax returns of 280 corporations. What it found was a Beltway version of a mafia protection scheme.

From 2008 to 2010, at least 30 Fortune 500 companies — including PepsiCo, Verizon, Wells Fargo, and DuPont — paid more for lobbyists than they did in taxes. They collectively spent $476 million sucking up to Congress, buying protection for tax breaks, loopholes, and special subsidies.

It didn't matter that these same 30 firms brought home a staggering $164 billion in profit during that three-year period. They not only managed to avoid paying taxes. They actually received $10.6 billion in rebates.

Welcome to the U.S. tax code, under which companies like General Electric and Boeing contribute less to the federal treasury than a retired machinist living in Florida.

Defenders of the system argue that most deductions don't go to large corporations. That's true. Purely in terms of dollars, the lion's share go for mortgage interest, employer-paid health insurance, retirement plans, and Medicare benefits.

The difference is these tend to benefit everyone. They're designed for the greater good, reinforcing the pillars of self-determination: home ownership, savings, and healthcare.

But there's another part of the tax code where 99 percent of America is barred from entry. It's where Congress sells loopholes and subsidies to those with the wallets to pay. They not only screw the rest of the country — which is forced to cover the tab — but turn any notion of a free market into situation comedy.

Even for companies within the same industry, the disparities are alarming. From 2008 to 2010, UPS paid a tax rate of 24 percent. Rival FedEx paid less than 1 percent.

Monsanto managed to pay 22 percent — well below the supposed corporate rate of 35 percent. But that's nothing compared to DuPont, which received as $72 million rebate — despite profits of $2.1 billion.

This sleight-of-hand even extends to retail. While Nordstrom paid 37 percent in taxes, Macy's paid just 12.

You don't need a Wharton MBA to see how damaging this is to the nation's financial health. Big companies are given incentive to lard up on lobbyists, accountants, and lawyers rather than use that money to improve products and services. And while small businesses may collectively be our largest and most stable employer, we've rigged the game against them, since they can't afford to buy congressmen of their own.

"The tax code is a mess," says Congressman Chris Van Hollen (D-Maryland). "I support tax reform, but not reform that's simply a Trojan horse for giving another round of windfall tax breaks to the very wealthy."

And that's the problem. President Obama and Democrats have railed for years over this brand of favoritism, only to cave like the French army at the first whiff of resistance.

Republicans are worse, prattling on about free markets while protecting just about any market-distorting loophole if the money's right. Mitt Romney, the poster child of off-shore tax schemes during his time at Bain Capital, claims he has a plan to close loopholes. He just refuses to say how he'll do it.

But if you're not being bought with weekend golf retreats at Augusta National, it's easy to find giveaways we all can agree the must end. Introducing the 10 most corrupt breaks, designed to do nothing but pervert America's economic strength:

10. I'm Irish. No, really. Apple Inc. may have made Silicon Valley famous, but it prefers to let someone else pick up the check for Northern California's freeways, bridges, and airports.

How? By pretending to be Irish.

In the late 1980s, Apple decided that Ireland's 12.5 percent corporate tax rate was a much more comely figure than America's 35. But Steve Jobs didn't want to move to Dublin. Fortunately, Congress allowed him to fake it.

Apple created an Irish subsidiary. Then, with a flourish of paperwork, it transferred its most valuable assets — its patents — to Ireland, comically forcing its U.S. headquarters to pay leasing fees for its own inventions.

Nothing actually had changed in the way the company operated. Apple simply had new paperwork saying it was partial to warm beer and fiddles, allowing it to dodge a substantial part of its U.S. tax bill.

But that wasn't the end of the scam. The Irish subsidiary is partially owned by another company, Baldwin Holdings, which doesn't even publicly list an office address or a phone number. But it does have paperwork saying it's headquartered in the Virgin Islands, where it can stockpile its income tax-free, outside the reach of the IRS.

Most people associate such exhaustive money laundering with drug cartels. But it's now standard practice at firms like Eli Lilly, Google, Microsoft, Pfizer, and Facebook. The only difference is that when drug dealers do it, the government shows up with Kevlar and automatic weapons instead of a refund check.

Congress, meanwhile, is paid to look the other way, leaving the federal treasury to serial molestation by our most prominent citizens.

"The original sin is that we treat a wholly owned subsidiary in the Cayman Islands as if it was an arm's length separate entity," says Dr. Calvin Johnson, a tax expert at the University of Texas Law School. "A pocket transfer from the U.S. to the Cayman Islands is like a transfer from your left pocket to your right. Any system that treats a Cayman Island subsidiary as if it is a separate entity is just asking to be destroyed."

Actually, it already has been destroyed. Despite declaring $18 billion in profits in 2010, Apple paid just 17 percent in federal taxes. It socked away another $74 billion offshore and tax-free.

Who covers the difference when Apple pretends to be Irish? That would be you.

9. How to lower your taxes by sitting on your ass. Back in the 1970s, "hard work" wasn't just something candidates yammered during campaigns. It was actually imbedded in the tax code. Capital gains — investment income created by things like stock dividends — were taxed at a higher rate than wage income for a very simple reason.

"The theory was that it was tougher to dig a ditch than to watch somebody do it," says Robert McIntyre, director of Citizens for Tax Justice.

Even Ronald Reagan knew that someone shouldn't pay less for sitting on his ass. He made the capital gains tax the same as the highest personal rate.

But heavy protection payments have since whittled that notion of "hard work" down to a toothpick. George W. Bush finally hacked it to its current low of just 15 percent.

Officially, the theory is that lowering capital gains will spur investment, creating new companies, new jobs, and prosperity for all. But most economists have found it does little to spur savings and investment.

What it does do is deliver a fortune to investment bankers and financiers like Romney and Warren Buffett, both of whom pay lower rates than their secretaries.

Of the $100 billion this costs the government each year, nearly 40 percent goes to just the 400 highest-income Americans.

Congressman Sander Levin (D-Michigan) has tried to shear this golden lamb by requiring those taking capital gains breaks to prove they actually invested. Yet Congressman Dave Camp, a Michigan Republican and chairman of the House Ways & Means Committee, has blocked the bill from ever coming up for a vote.

It's probably just coincidence that since Camp entered Congress in 1998, he's taken a whopping $631,916 from the financial industry. Camp did not respond to repeated interview requests.

8. The Sheryl Crow loophole. It pays to have low friends in high places. Six years ago, legislators from Tennessee, Kentucky, and Texas wanted to reward those who provide the star power to their fundraisers: country musicians. So they passed a law allowing songwriters to avoid income taxes and sell their publishing catalogs at capital gains rates.

Suddenly, Nashville's elite could not only avoid the taxes everyone else must pay; they could also skirt their Social Security and Medicare bills.

Three years later, Sheryl Crow sold her publishing rights to one of Australia's largest banks for nearly $10 million. Her estimated savings courtesy of this congressional giveaway: $2 million.

The law, however, curiously omitted other creative types who weren't hosting congressmen's rallies. Authors, for example, still must pay standard income taxes for selling the copyrights to their books. The same goes for painters, photographers, screenwriters and sculptors.

7. Getting rich, Facebook-style. Before Facebook offered its first publicly sold stock in May, CEO Mark Zuckerberg grabbed 120 shares for himself, then threw another 67 million shares to his employees.

It may have seemed an unusual act of generosity for a man not known for his grace. That's because it was also a multibillion-dollar tax scam.

The public paid $38 a share for Facebook stock in initial trading. Yet via a sweet little loophole created by Congress, Zuckerberg claimed the shares he gave employees were worth just six cents a piece. By law, Facebook was allowed to deduct the difference — over $7 billion — as a business expense.

In reality, the employee giveaway cost Facebook nothing. It neither expanded the company's expenses nor increased its liabilities. McIntyre compares it to an airline letting workers fly free in seats that would otherwise have been empty. The airlines don't receive a break because it doesn't cost them anything.

But thanks to some inventive paper shuffling, Facebook will receive a $500 million tax refund next year.

A similar loophole encourages companies to offer executives those bloated compensation packages.

When CEO wages began to spur outrage in the early Clinton years, Congress decided that companies could no longer deduct executive salaries over $1 million as a business expense.

But it also created a loophole that rendered its crackdown meaningless. Exempted were "performance-based" bonuses that surpass that $1 million threshold. A grand new corporate giveaway was born.

Suddenly, CEOs were being slathered with stock options. Companies expensed the giveaway without ever opening their wallets, leaving taxpayers to subsidize caviar compensation plans.

Last year, the five highest-paid CEOs collectively took home $232 million — while their companies received a tidy $81 million in tax breaks.

6. My other home's a yacht. Established in 1913, the mortgage interest deduction is one of the oldest and most sacred breaks in the code. It's meant to encourage home ownership and stabilize communities.

It doesn't really work, since most people will buy homes whether they receive a break or not. Countries like Australia and Canada have similar ownership rates to ours without offering the deduction.

But at least congressmen back in 1913 occasionally tried to do something beneficial to the country. Today's Washington is more interested in exploiting such beneficence. Take the yacht deduction.

The luxury sailing industry was able to buy its way into the mortgage break when Congress officially declared boats as homes. But not just any boat. The rules require they have sleeping quarters, a kitchen, and toilet, leaving just 3 percent of U.S. boat owners to qualify.

"The mortgage deduction was never targeted for that," says Congressman Tim Walz (D-Minnesota). "It was meant to make home ownership more affordable for the middle class."

So Walz wrote the Ending Taxpayer Subsidies for Yachts Act, hoping to bar the über-wealthy from sponging off the mortgage deduction. Once again, Congressman Dave Camp refuses to let it come up for a vote.

That leaves everyday taxpayers to subsidize toys like Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's $200 million yacht, which comes equipped with an indoor pool, basketball court, and its own submarine.

"It's a loophole in the tax code that benefits a few people at the very top," says Walz, a sergeant major in the National Guard and former teacher. "I certainly feel if they want to grab their luxury liners, I'm glad they do. And I'm glad we have people making them. I'm just not certain we subsidize that."

5. Big Oil's Cadillac welfare. Last month, Mitt Romney traveled to Iowa, where wind energy has become an economic force, responsible for 7,000 jobs and 20 percent of the state's electricity.

He announced that, as president, he would kill the $3.3 billion in tax incentives that now go to this nascent form of electricity. In Romney's eyes, the industry has had more than enough time to stand on its own two feet.

"He will allow the wind credit to expire, end the stimulus boondoggles, and create a level playing field on which all sources of energy can compete on their merits," Romney spokesman Shawn McCoy told The Des Moines Register.

It's a laughable position. After all, Romney has announced no similar crackdown on a much older and larger welfare queen: Big Oil.

The five largest U.S. oil companies collect a spectacular $20 billion a year in tax breaks. And they'd prefer that wind farms not compete for that lucrative welfare dollar. During this year's presidential race, the industry has paid Romney $3.4 million to ensure wind goes away.

Technically, the oil giveaway is supposed to defray the cost of searching for new sources. But even George W. Bush realized the industry didn't need subsidies back in 2005, when the price of a barrel was at $55. "We don't need incentives to oil and gas companies to explore," he said at the time. "There are plenty of incentives."

These days, the price of a barrel routinely hovers around $100. But the five biggest companies — BP, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil, and Shell — still get their breaks, despite collective record profits of $137 billion last year.

"The oil industry is doing fine," says Johnson, the University of Texas tax expert. "They don't need or deserve a dime of subsidy. It's all money thrown away to make shareholders richer. The private market will provide any subsidies by increasing the price. It's time to get the government out of the business of special subsidies. It's like Cadillac welfare."

4. A break for shipping your job to China. In April, 750 workers at a Kimberly-Clark paper mill in Everett, Washington, lost their jobs when the company shipped them to a lower-cost facilities overseas.

Steelworkers in Stevens Point, Wisconsin, suffered the same fate. Their mill's owner, Joerns Heathcare, took away 150 jobs last month by moving operations to Mexico.

Another 170 people making auto sensors at a Sensata Technologies plant in Freeport, Illinois, will be out of work by year's end. Their jobs are being carted off to China.

In each case, American taxpayers will subsidize the evacuation.

It's not just cheap labor that pushes work overseas. The U.S. tax code allows companies to expense every last cost of sending your job abroad.

At a time of 8 percent unemployment, one would think Congress would rush to kill a loophole that actually encourages economic misery. One would be wrong.

This summer, Senate Democrats introduced the Bring Jobs Home Act, which would kill the loophole and offer a 20 percent tax credit to companies that bring work back to America.

Republicans filibustered the bill to death. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) went so far as to call the measure "a joke," ensuring another nervous Christmas for the country's blue-collar workers.

3. The behaving-like-an-asshole deduction. In 1989, third mate Gregory Cousins was negotiating the 986-foot Exxon Valdez through Bligh's Reef in Alaska while Captain Joe Hazelwood slept off a bender below deck.

The vessel crashed, spilling upwards of 25 million gallons of oil into Prince William Sound. The disaster could have been avoided if the ship's collision-avoidance radar was working. It had broken a year before, but Exxon chose not to fix it due to the cost of repair and operation.

Overnight, 1,300 miles of pristine shoreline turned to blacktop. Wildlife caked in oil looked like a Hollywood casting call for an Al Jolson biopic. The remote locale made clean-up difficult. Twenty-three years later, fish stocks have yet to return to their pre-spill levels.

A court would eventually level $5 billion punitive damages against Exxon — equal to a single year's profit at the time. The company appealed, chipping away at the sanction until the Supreme Court (natch!) slashed that figure to $500 million 2008.

Yet through the miracle of the tax code, Exxon would end up paying only about $325 million. No matter how negligent a company is, court judgments are considered nothing more than a business expense and, therefore, tax deductible.

Last year, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) introduced the Protecting American Taxpayers from Misconduct Act. If a court orders damages for malfeasance, U.S. taxpayers would no longer be forced to grab a piece of the tab.

Yet even in the Democratically controlled Senate, liberals realize that exposing their corporate patrons to more tax liability will go over like a dieting booth at the county fair. Leahy's bill never made it out of committee.

2. Delaware, the Cayman Islands of America. Just outside of Philadelphia sits a tax haven so egregious the Cayman Islands complain about us. It's called Delaware, a tiny state that allows American companies to set up fake headquarters so they can avoid taxes in their own states.

Delaware does it by asking fewer questions than a needle exchange. Like the Caymans, it doesn't tax assets like royalties, leases, trademarks, and copyrights. So U.S. companies create shell firms in Delaware, then "sell" their intellectual property to them. By leasing their own inventions from these fake companies, corporations have dodged $9.5 billion in state taxes over the past decade.

The trailblazer for such schemes was WorldCom, the famed telecommunications company that imploded in 2002 after being caught cooking its books. In one scam, WorldCom pretended to pay its Delaware shell company $20 billion in royalties for the questionable asset of "management foresight." Though there were no managers in Delaware, and no real money changed hands, WorldCom was able to reduce its state taxes by hundreds of millions.

Such scheming is so commonplace that Delaware is home to more corporations (945,326) than it is people (897,934). Even the patron saint of tax evasion, the Cayman Islands, sniffs over the state's corrupt practices.

"There should be a level playing field and Delaware should have to comply with the same standards as the Caymans," says Anthony Travers, chairman of the Cayman Islands Stock Exchange.

Johnson likens the Delaware strategy to one first professed by Clyde Barrow, the Depression-era bank robber.

"Near the end of Bonnie and Clyde, they're lying around in bed after making out and Bonnie says, 'Anything you'd do different?' And Clyde says, 'I think we shoulda lived in one state and done our bank robbery in another state,'" says the professor.

"The answer is, if you're a corporation, that's exactly what you do."

1. The corporate blackmail exemption. In 2006, Starbucks chieftain Howard Schultz sold the Seattle Supersonics to Clay Bennett for $350 million — with the "understanding" he would keep the team in Seattle.

Almost immediately, Bennett — who made his money by marrying the daughter of billionaire Edward Gaylord, owner of Country Music Television — asked Seattle to pony up $300 million for a new arena. The city wasn't eager, since it had already spent $75 million renovating the existing arena a decade before.

Bennett decided to blackmail Seattle, using Oklahoma City as leverage. Oklahoma had no major sports team of its own. So its otherwise conservative legislature offered Bennett a huge welfare package: $120 million for arena renovations and a new practice facility.

Seattle balked. Oklahoma had a new basketball team.

Yet according to the tax code, not all entitlements are creating equal. While a laid-off electrician still pays taxes on his $500-a-week unemployment check, Bennett didn't pay a dime on his $120 million welfare bonanza.

This exemption only sweetens corporate incentive to blackmail states and cities whenever they consider moving. Take Toyota.

In 2002, it decided to build an assembly plant for its Tundra pickup, taking advantage of cheap labor in the South. Just like Oklahoma, otherwise anti-entitlement states like Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Texas stumbled over each other with monstrous welfare packages.

Texas ultimately won by offering $227 million in subsidies. The state had purchased the right to host 2,000 workers at a plant in San Antonio — at a cost of $110,000 per job.

Yet for America as a whole, the deal was a spectacular loss.

It wasn't long before Toyota closed a similar plant in California, killing 4,700 jobs and shifting production to San Antonio and Canada.

The net result: Texas taxpayers forked over $227 million so America could lose 2,700 jobs. The only winner was the Japanese automaker, which walked away with a tax-free welfare package.

Still, Congress continues to offer blackmailers this lucrative break, though it provides no benefit to the country.

"There isn't one bit of improvement whether the Toyota plant goes north or south of the Tennessee-Alabama border," says Johnson. "Yet they will make money off the fact that there is a line between them. It's just nonsense."

Unfortunately, nonsense is the calling card of the tax code. Surely, even Mitt Romney can see that.

 

 
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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:38:17 GMT
The Big CON

badsport... I know you are just trying to influence who gets their information ONLY from what you wrote, but quite a few people watched the recent debate and heard Romney state his position which is just about 180 degrees from what you attribute to him.

You cited MSNBC as your source so I understand how you feel.   I watch MSNBC, CNN, and FOX so that I can hear the various points of view.  One of those networks actually has people from both camps; liberal and conservative, debate the issues right on the show.  I suggest you spend a little time listening to a conservative source... if for no other reason that it might make your arguments reflect a little diversity.

In other words, your primary source of information is irrefutably so distorted that most reasonable liberals don't watch them.  You need to listen to other points of view to make a credibile argument.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:38:57 GMT
The Big CON

Who is Jerry Anthony?

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:29:53 GMT
The Big CON

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:27:18 GMT
The Big CON

The BIG Con!

Tuesday, October 09, 2012

                       

By Jerry Anthony/ Contributor

By definition “conned” 1. Involving abuse of confidence: deceitfully manipulative.  2. To swindle: trick. 3. To persuade by deception. 4 a confidence game or swindle. 5. A lie, exaggeration, or glib self-serving talk.  Now match this with what Mitt Romney has actually been doing now for over a year!  The flip flopping and pandering to whomever he happens to be with is all part of the BIG CON that he and Paul Ryan are running on both parties and everyone else in this country.  The proof is in all those video bites MSNBC has been running for some time.  The fuzzy math and tax cut for the rich and we are not going to cut Medicare is the CON.  These two Republicans are trying to CON their way into the White House with no plans.  They really believe people will vote for “trust me I will tell you later”. 

The Republican Party is openly trying to control the outcome of this election like there is no democracy or Constitution of the United States!   

So I have to ask this question:  How could anyone except the billionaires that are buying this country vote for these Republicans?

Romney wants a two trillion military budget?  No Social Security?  No Medicare or Medicaid?

No restrictions on Wall Street? No Government regulations to protect our food, air and water supply?  War with Iran? 

Just who do you think these crazy men think is going to pay for all this social and economic destruction?

Well you better start thinking because this maybe your last chance. 

The BIG CON is on and you better wake up!

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:26:49 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:45:11 GMT
What a city looks like after decades of Democratic rule...

... and the economically crushing results of big labor.

Detroit is now a war zone.

Who's next? Kalifornia? New York?

Nobama 2012

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:57:11 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-03/california-gas-stations-begin-to-shut-on-record-high-spot-prices.html

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:51:04 GMT
Romney Health Care Plan Nearly Doubles Family Insurance Costs: Study

Since Obamacare has been in place the cost of medicare has gone up and the help for prescriptions has gone down... That equates to an increase x 2...

Americans don't need or want government to make their healthcare decisions for them, we can make our own decisions just fine for ourselves when given options and choices.. competition in the private business sector is healthy for the economy and good for comsumers, it keeps businesses on their toes and in check with prices and quality customer service .. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:32:09 GMT
Romney Health Care Plan Nearly Doubles Family Insurance Costs: Study
You cannot dissuade a person from a position with reason and facts if reason and facts did not determine the position in the first place.
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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:30:09 GMT
Romney Health Care Plan Nearly Doubles Family Insurance Costs: Study

2 excellent points you call attention to 2cents:

1)  There are uninsureds in MA, just as it is projected there will be 30 million uninsureds in the US even after full implementation of Obamacare.  So your point is?

2)  In spite of Obama's pledge to lower family healthcare costs by $2,500 by the end of his first term we now learn that family annual premiums are up by $3,000.  Oops, a $5,500 miscalculation?

Health Premiums Up $3,000; Obama Vowed $2,500 Cut

During his first run for president, Barack Obama made one very specific promise to voters: He would cut health insurance premiums for families by $2,500, and do so in his first term.

But it turns out that family premiums have increased by more than $3,000 since Obama's vow, according to the latest annual Kaiser Family Foundation employee health benefits survey.

Premiums for employer-provided family coverage rose $3,065 — 24% — from 2008 to 2012, the Kaiser survey found. Even if you start counting in 2009, premiums have climbed $2,370.

What's more, premiums climbed faster in Obama's four years than they did in the previous four under President Bush, the survey data show.

There's no question about what Obama was promising the country, since he repeated it constantly during his 2008 campaign.

In a debate with Sen. John McCain, for example, Obama said "the only thing we're going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year."

At a campaign stop in Columbus, Ohio, in February 2008, Obama promised that "We are going to work with you to lower your premiums by $2,500. We will not wait 20 years from now to do it, or 10 years from now to do it. We will do it by the end of my first term as president."

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:42:00 GMT
Romney Health Care Plan Nearly Doubles Family Insurance Costs: Study

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/romney-health-care-plan-double-costs_n_1922555.html

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:36:03 GMT
IS YOUR FAMILY SAFE FROM CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING?

 

IS YOUR FAMILY SAFE FROM CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING?

Carbon Monoxide (CO) is a colorless, odorless, toxic gas that is produced as result of incomplete combustion when fuel burning appliances are not properly adjusted or ventilated.

The initial symptoms of CO poisoning are similar to the flu (but without fever) and will typically affect everyone in a household where CO is present.  Symptoms may include tiredness, headaches, nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, blurred vision, or shortness of breath.

If CO poisoning is suspected; get fresh air immediately, seek medical attention if necessary, and call the City of Mesa at (480) 644-4277 (GASS) or 911.

Maintaining your natural gas appliances is the best way to safeguard your home from a natural gas accident.  Always put safety first when using natural gas appliances of any kind.  Your natural gas flame should be blue with a hint of yellow near the tip.  A yellow flame indicates incomplete combustion and is potentially dangerous.  Call a qualified contractor if you suspect your appliances are not operating properly.

Home Safety Tips:

  • CO detectors are not required but are recommended.
  • Follow manufacturers’ instructions for the care and use of gas appliances and equipment.
  • Have your gas appliances installed and serviced by qualified industry professionals.
  • Inspect and replace if necessary, all gas appliances, connectors, furnaces, vents, flues, chimneys, and gas lines to your home.
  • Replace your furnace air filters monthly throughout the heating season.
  • Never operate gasoline powered engines or charcoal grills in closed garages, basements, or buildings.  

 For additional information or home safety tips on CO poisoning, visit mesaaz.gov/energy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:03:21 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

Few things are as amusing as watching a liberal cheer on abject failure on every level. I can't help but imagine 2 hammering herself in the forehead, all the while smiling and trying to convince people it really feels good.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:23:30 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

Ah "redistribution of wealth" such a beautious (sic) thing.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:58:56 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

The point of the article is the economy is not recovering after 4 years. 11,000 jobs may be lost!  130,000 pensioners are at risk!  As for failed business practices, AA did not go $5 trillion in the red the past 4 years!  

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:58:42 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

 

Top News

American Airlines pension default Q&A

NEW YORK | Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:52am EST

By Mark Miller

NEW YORK (Reuters) - American Airlines is heading toward the largest default of a defined-benefit pension plan in U.S. history.

It's a messy story involving 130,000 covered workers, four underfunded pension plans, bankruptcy court proceedings and negotiations with unions and a government agency.

That could be frightening for the more than 18 million private sector workers who still are covered by a traditional defined benefit pension plan, even if it isn't American's.

What can you expect if your own employer's plan were to be terminated or frozen? Here's a Q&A on the pension issues raised by the American Airlines bankruptcy.

Q: What's happening at American?

The airline, a unit of AMR Corp, proposes to terminate its four underfunded pension plans as part of its bankruptcy proceedings, replacing them with a 401(k) offering. The pension plans' assets and liabilities would be transferred to the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp (PBGC), the government-sponsored agency that insures most private sector defined benefit pensions.

The plans, which cover pilots, flight attendants, agents and ground crews, have an estimated total of $8.3 billion in assets and $18.5 billion in liabilities. American told employees this week it expects 90 percent of its workers to receive full benefits.

The final outcome at American is far from certain. The PBGC is pushing back hard, pointing out that some airlines have come through bankruptcy without dumping their pension plans.

"A bankrupt company will do anything it can to cut costs, so it's no surprise American wants to dump their pension plans," says Josh Gotbaum, PBGC's director. "But that doesn't mean they need to do it."

Gotbaum points to special pension relief legislation in 2007 that permitted American to cut its contributions by $1 billion over the past four years.

Q: Is the traditional pension as we know it dying?

A: No, but it is hospitalized and on life support. The percentage of Fortune 1000 companies sponsoring an actively accruing pension plan has been dropping sharply for years. The portion in 2011 was 35 percent, down from 59 percent in 2004, according to Towers Watson.

Pension funding levels are declining. The aggregate funding level of corporate pension plans at S&P 1500 companies stood at 78 percent at the end of January, down from 84 percent a year earlier, according to Mercer. The drop stemmed mainly from recent reforms requiring more conservative forecasts of pension portfolio returns.

Q: How can I determine if my employer's plan is endangered?

A: The plan's funded status is one indicator, a number you can find in the funding notice that your employer must send to you annually under the law. Just as important, pay attention to what's going on in your industry. Since employers worry about providing competitive benefit packages, they're less likely to abandon a defined benefit pension plan if they're offered by competitors.

Q: What happens if my employer terminates or freezes my pension plan? And what's the difference?

A: When a pension plan is frozen, the employer continues to manage the plan and is obliged to pay out benefits at the level promised at the time of the freeze. But you won't accrue any further benefits, and new employees won't participate. When a plan terminates, the PBGC takes over the plan's assets and liabilities, as well as responsibility for paying benefits.

Q: Will the PBGC pay the full pension that I was promised by my employer?

A: Most workers will receive 100 percent of what they earned -- but again, only up to the point of the plan's termination. That can mean significant benefit losses in retirement, and it's especially damaging for older workers who are at their peak earning power, because they won't accrue benefit credits for their last working years. All workers become 100 percent vested at the point of termination and transfer to the PBGC.

Moreover, PBGC payouts are capped by law, and generally they won't amount to full coverage for the highest-earning workers like airline pilots. The cap is determined using a formula based on your age at the time the plan is terminated, and it is updated every calendar year. For 2012, the maximum monthly benefit for workers retiring at age 65 is $4,653.41, or $4,188.07 if you elect a joint and survivor option that pays benefits to a spouse.

If you participate in a multi-employer pension plan, guarantees are much lower due to differences in the insurance plan design and premium levels. Currently, it's set at $1,072 per month.

Q: How can I determine my specific situation?

A: Ask your employer for the latest annual statement of benefits, which will specify what you would receive at the plan's normal retirement age based on your work history to date with the company. That will allow you to determine how much of your benefit would be covered in the event of a PBGC takeover of the plan.

Q: Can I get a lump sum distribution if my plan is frozen or terminated?

A: No. If your plan is frozen or terminated, your only option will be a monthly payment. Also, lump sums are limited to half of owed benefits if a plan's assets fall below 80 percent of its obligation. Plans funded at less than 60 percent are prohibited from making any lump sum payouts.

Q: Are taxpayers on the hook when companies go bankrupt and turn over their plans to the PBGC?

A: No. The PBGC is owned by the government, but it's funded through insurance premiums paid by plan sponsors. The PBGC has a long-term $26 billion deficit due to an unprecedented run of plan failures during the recession, but it has plenty of cash to meet near-term obligations.

The PBGC has asked Congress for the flexibility to raise premiums to help close the deficit, so far without success. "If premiums aren't raised and the deficit keeps getting bigger, at some point we'd be faced with a choice," says Gotbaum. "We could stop paying benefits or ask Congress for taxpayer money to provide the benefits that have been promised."

Q: What can I do if my pension plan is in trouble?

A: Unfortunately, not much. Your plan's fate is in the hands of your employer, and possibly the PBGC or a bankruptcy court judge. And, you can be confident you'll receive 100 percent of what you've earned up to the point of termination, so long as your projected benefit is below the cap on the PBGC guarantee.

If you don't expect to be made whole even on that amount, and you're nearing retirement, you could do what some American Airlines pilots did -- hurry up and retire, and ask for your lump sum before your company defaults on its plan.

Beyond that, it's important to play good defense. Keep thorough records of your employment history and all correspondence, notices and documents relating to the retirement plan and your benefits. Read and save summary plan descriptions, and verify the accuracy of individual benefit statements that you receive. If you need help with that, contact one of the free actuarial counseling services available through the U.S. Administration on Aging's network of Pension Counseling and Information Projects. (http://www.pensionrights.org/counseling-projects)

Finally, consider boosting your retirement saving outside the workplace using a low-cost Roth or traditional IRA. Maximize your Social Security benefits by understanding the rules for early and normal retirement ages, as well as for spousal rules.

(Editing by Linda Stern and Steve Orlofsky)

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:55:49 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

I figure Obamas old remark will PO fewer of his base the Romneys remarks. Is the government supposed to save American airlines? What's the reason for the post? To highlight the poor business model of American Airlines?

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:40:48 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

 

American Airlines sends thousands of layoff notices

Mary Altaffer / AP

American Airlines has told over 11,000 workers they could lose their jobs as part of its reorganization.

American Airlines has told over 11,000 workers they could lose their jobs as part of its reorganization in bankruptcy.

However, the U.S. airline, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in November, said it expects that fewer than 40 percent of those it sent notices to, or 4,400 people, will actually be laid off in November and December.

The job cut notifications come as a result of the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act, which requires workers to be told about major layoffs or plant closures 60 days in advance.

Jamie Horwitz, a spokesman for the Transport Workers Union, a representative for workers that received WARN Act notices said the layoff notices “will look worse than the actual layoffs.”

Horwitz said about 800 employees had agreed to leave American voluntarily, a move that will further reduce the number of expected layoffs. American said in February it planned to cut up to 14,000 jobs as part of a plan to slim down its operations in bankruptcy.

American also said it is cutting flights by one to two percent for the rest of September and October. 
The cuts are partly due to an increase in pilot sick days and greater maintenance reports by flight crews led to flight cancellations and delays, Hicks said. American operates about 1,700 flights a day.

According to flight tracking service FlightAware.com, over the past two weeks American Airlines has canceled more flights than any other major U.S. airline.

Reuters contributed to this report.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:34:37 GMT
LOVE THE HEADLINES!

 

 

Obama 1998 Loyola Speech Leaked: 'I Believe In Redistribution' (AUDIO)
Http://i.huffpost.com/gen/778035/thumbs/sobamaloyolaspeechlarge300.jpg
     
It turns out Mitt Romney isn’t the only presidential candidate to have a video leak this week.
 
Fresh on the heels of Romney’s leaked campaign fundraising video, in which the Republican candidate calls 47 percent of Americans "dependent on government" since they don’t pay federal income taxes, a recording from a purported 1998 Loyola University appearance by President Barack Obama has been posted to YouTube.
 
The sentiments revealed in the more than decade-old Obama video, however, are far different those Romney expressed at a Florida fundraiser this May. Referring to efforts to restore the efficacy of government, then-Illinois state Sen. Obama said:
 
“The trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some [wealth] redistribution -- because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”
 
A request for comment to confirm the authenticity of the leaked Loyola video was not immediately returned by the Obama campaign.
 
During his 2008 presidential campaign, some 10 years later, it seemed Obama's stance on redistribution had changed little. He garnered Republican criticism when he told an Ohio campaign audience, “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
 
Obama now may be more wary of such language. Earlier this year when the president pushed for the Buffett Rule, a plan that would have raised taxes on the wealthy, he maintained such a tax increase was not designed to redistribute wealth but to spur investment in the U.S. economy.
 
 
 
Prosecution For Financial Fraud Hit A 20-Year Low During The Obama Administration
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HELL WEEK

 

DEBACLE... GOP Senate Candidates Break With Mitt... Republican Consultant: 'There's A Feeling That This Thing's In Free Fall'...
Ex-Bush Aide: 'I Honestly Don't Know What Romney Can Do'...
NOONAN: 'Romney Campaign Incompetent... Time For Intervention'

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:44:04 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

Yes, It is boring and not much in responses and idea exchanges.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:09:30 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

I think the worst part is that they scrubbed all of the content. There were many threads that were cumulative and held historical significance and context. Weak.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:26:20 GMT
STREET LIGHTS

You need to find out who owns the street lights first.  Some are owned by SRP, others by the city.  Putting in a request to have them fixed to the wrong people will get you no where.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:38:51 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

I don't like the new format.  I also don't like how the whole East VAlley is lumped together.  This format is too sterile.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:37:27 GMT
STREET LIGHTS

It's the economy :-)

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:22:50 GMT
STREET LIGHTS

Two plus months ago, neighbors noticed two street lights out on a curve on White Rock Dr. in SCW. One neighbor called in, no response - then a couple others called in and went through the 20 question routine. One neighbor even walked out in the street to describe what the light looked like. Various time lines were given, one week, 18 working days etc. - nothing has been done yet. Is there a higher "power" we can appeal too?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:10:20 GMT
E-Coli in Johnson Utilities water

Nice guy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:33:10 GMT
E-Coli in Johnson Utilities water

So, everyone get their new insert with the water bill?  If not here is  short run down : Its not their fault must be bad reading(s).  Don't call them regarding cost of purchasing your filters...call your insurance agent or the people who test the water. 

 

OK--- I just want to know who was dumb enough to think they would actually pay for your filters?  Why waste your time calling them?  And if you did call them, let us know about it (you can create a new screen name if you are ashamed of thinking there was a snowballs chance in you know where of them actually paying)  Cuz I want to know if they laughed in your face and then hung up.....and if not, I want to laugh in your face Cool

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 05 Sep 2012 10:49:37 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

*chirp* *chirp* *chirp*

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:35:34 GMT
The Food Stamp Nation

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:28:43 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

Bump

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:11:08 GMT
Back to School Energy Safety - Is Your Kid and e-SMARTkid?

Is Your Kid An e-SMARTkid?

Take an interactive journey into e-SMARTkids to engage your child’s imagination with educational games and hands-on activities to use energy safely and responsibly at home and at school. 

e-SMARTkids is 100% kid-friendly and 100% kid-safe and can be accessed at any time.  Kids will learn where energy comes from, the travels of electricity and natural gas, and so much more.  Have you ever wondered why birds can sit on power lines and not get shocked? Or why natural gas flames are blue? Or whether garbage could someday be a source of energy? Now you can get answers to these and all your energy-related questions. Just Ask an Expert! 

Is your family saving energy at home? Does your family use electricity and natural gas safely?  Using e-SMARTkids home inspection checklists, your family will be able perform home inspections to help identify energy inefficiencies or safety issues.  

 Teachers can also use e-SMARTkids as an instructional tool in the classroom.  e-SMARTkids will enhance classroom learning through science education with standards-based learning using downloaded instructional guides and curriculum-based games and videos.  Teachers can also sign-up to receive a FREE classroom presentation from City of Mesa Energy Resources personnel on how to use natural gas energy safely and responsibly. 

The energy-use habits your kids develop when they are young will stay with them for the rest of their lives.  Visit www.mesaaz.gov/energy to begin your journey. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:32:56 GMT
SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH: DON’T WAIT FOR AN EMERGENCY TO PREPARE!

SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH: DON’T WAIT FOR AN EMERGENCY TO PREPARE!

Make knowledge of energy safety part of your preparedness plans.  Know how to recognize and react to an energy emergency. 

 ENERGY SAFETY DURING AND AFTER EMERGENCIES

Energy and other utilities may be damaged during emergencies and outages may occur.  As part of emergency planning, it is important to learn how to detect an energy emergency and how to respond.  Remember, regardless of your emergency plan; always follow the directions of on-site emergency officials. 

Energy emergencies that would require you to go to a safe location and report the incident to the City of Mesa’s Energy Resources Department, SRP and/or 911 include:

You smell natural gas (a rotten egg smell) or hear a hissing sound coming from appliances or meters.  Leave the area immediately and call the City of Mesa gas emergency hotline at 480-644-4277 (GASS) or call 911.

  • You see a nearby transformer sparking or smoking.  If there is a safe exit, leave the building immediately and call the City of Mesa electric emergency hotline at 480-644-2266/SRP electric emergency hotline at 602-236-8811 OR call 911.
  • You see a downed power line.  Always assume it is energized and dangerous.  STAY CLEAR OF THE AREA and call the City of Mesa electric emergency hotline at 480-644-2266/SRP electric emergency hotline at 602-236-8811 OR call 911.
  • Your electrical outlets begin to spark or smoke, or your interior walls become hot to the touch.  Leave immediately, go to a safe location and call 911.

When you return following an emergency, do not go inside a building until it has been cleared to do so by emergency officials.  For more information on energy safety, visit mesaaz.gov/energy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:29:56 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

Gas prices climb 9.4% in August. Thank you Obama!

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 04 Sep 2012 00:35:53 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

Two words:

Exonerated

Re-elect

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 01 Sep 2012 04:06:51 GMT
Our decaying local and national infrastructure

Ken - Agreed.  The raiding of funds already designated for roads needs to stop.  Do you remember hearing about how the State stole money from the cities and counties to balance their budget? Well this is still happening, I am sure that this is some of what you are referring too. This is a significant issue that is contributing to the problem of our crumbling infrastructure. 

 

In the end though, what we need is sensible taxation with a fair appropriation of the funds.  This, combined with your idea of some sort of North American Oil Alliance, would help start to turn things around for our state and country (among other things of course).

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:50:36 GMT
Praise for lower gas prices

Seems that a few celebrated Obama lowering gas prices prematurely!

 

Quick charts: 1 Month |  3 Month |  6 Month |  9 Month |  1 Year |  18 month |  2 Years |  3 Years |  5 Years |  8 Years
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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:45:03 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

I have also heard that between early and provisional ballots, there are something like 15,800 ballots yet to be counted.  Certainly enough to affect the results of this election.  So why have the results been released without a qualifying statement to the effect that early and provisional ballots have not been counted?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:27:14 GMT
Our decaying local and national infrastructure

You might be correct, BVA, but I think the first step is to stop raiding the tax accounts which were designed for roads to spend on non-road projects.   Once we know what the shortfall is, we can take appropriate steps.   At first blush, I'd say that gasoline tax is a pretty good method of "pay as you go" since there is a relationship, albeit imperfect, between amount of gasoline purchased and road deterioration. 

If we would break out of OPEC and form a similar North American alliance, my guess is that gasoline could be cheap enough to absorb the additional taxes required to maintain the road system.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:46:21 GMT
Scam Alert - Callers posing as PCSO officers attempt to collect "fines" from unsuspecting residents for missed Jury Service

News Release

Office of the Clerk of the Superior Court

 

Contact:

Lynn Hurley

Communications Director                                                 

520.866.5381

Chad A. Roche, Clerk

 

Fax 520.866/5385

lhurley@courts.az.gov

 

SCAM ALERT – CALLER IMPERSONATES PCSO TO COLLECT PHANTOM COSC JURY FINES

 

PINAL COUNTY, AZ (4/29/2012) – A possible phone scam involving individuals attempting to collect Failure to Appear “fines” from unsuspecting residents has been reported to PCSO today.  At approximately 9:00 a.m. today a citizen living in Casa Grande received a phone call from a man claiming to be with the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office. He went on to inform the resident that she had failed to report for jury duty and a fine would be sent to her home. PCSO Deputies traced the number to a fax line in Jamaica. The caller then tries to garner credit card information to pay the “fine.”

According to the Jury Commissioner and Clerk of the Superior Court, Chad Roche, “It is disheartening that there are criminals who will take every advantage to harm the public. This is particularly heinous because it impacts one of the highest calls to duty a citizen can answer and that is Jury Service. Equal access to justice and providing qualified Jurors to the Judiciary is something that we at the COSC take very seriously. If you receive a call requesting your credit card information to pay a fine for Failure to Appear, alert the proper authorities immediately.”

Norma Cruz, Associate Jury Commissioner stated that, “In Pinal County you will receive a Jury Summons by mail to appear for the Juror selection process.  We select for all Superior Court trials, Grand Jury and all eight Justice Courts. You will not receive a phone call by a PCSO officer for Failure to Appear, so anyone purporting to be a PCSO Officer collecting fines on our behalf is not a legitimate call.”

To verify that your name is in the current Jury pool, you can call the Jury Department directly at 520-866-5311. You may learn more about serving as a Juror visiting our website at www.pinalcountyaz.gov/COSC and click on the link at the left named Jury Information.

The Office of the Clerk of the Superior Court is committed to providing quality customer service, ensuring the integrity and access to court records by supporting the Judicial process through efficient Records Management, Financial Administration and Jury Service.

The Florence office of the Clerk of the Superior Court is located at 971 N. Jason Lopez Circle in the Pinal County Justice Complex, Building A. It is open to serve the public on weekdays from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. Satellite offices are located in Apache Junction and Casa Grande. The office of the COSC can be reached at 520-866-5300. To learn more about the Office of the Clerk of the Superior Court in Pinal County, please visit www.pinalcountyaz.gov/COSC

Follow Chad Roche on Facebook at  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000208978711 and the Clerk’s page is located at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pinal-County-Clerk-of-the-Superior-Court/126817117383092 as the Pinal County Clerk of the Superior Court. You can follow Chad on Twitter at @ChadRoche1

This News Release was prepared in collaboration with the Pinal County Sheriff’s Department.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 30 Aug 2012 03:18:33 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Well, if the primaries are any indication, it certainly appears Babeu is a slam dunk in November. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:27:37 GMT
Our decaying local and national infrastructure

Ken - Taxes simply aren't enough to pay for new/replacement infrastructure.  There are a couple of things to consider here. 1) Roads are significantly more costly to construct and repair now than they were years ago. 2) Many of the taxes that were created to pay for roads haven't changed or been increased in over 10 years. 3) More fuel efficient cars means less money is paid in taxes. This is a conundrum in itself because more miles are driven each year but on less fuel. This equates to more road damage and less money to fix them, and 4) much of the taxes paid goes to build new roads to catch up to development (especially here in Arizona) rather than going to fix or replace existing roads.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:53:44 GMT
Our decaying local and national infrastructure

Yes, government bailouts should stop.  No more auto company bailouts, no more bank bailouts, no more solar company bailouts... your company either makes it or it goes away... 

As for the bad roads... where in the world is all the money we currently pay for roads?   Every time you fill your gas tank or buy a set of tires, there are multiple taxes that are designed specifically to maintain the transportation infrastructure.  Since people, and companies, pay according to their use of the road, it's actually a pretty fair way to pay.  In many places, money collected from gas tax, tire excise taxes, auto registration fees, driver's license fees, end up going to subsidize public transportation projects like bus systems and light rail projects.   Any time you mix social engineering objectives with budgetting objectives, you will have an imbalance.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:46:28 GMT
Our decaying local and national infrastructure

You are pretty much correct.  Giving money to the banks is wasteful and foolish.  The government needs to stop backing loans.  Homeownership is the American dream not the American right.  If you can't afford to own a home then the bank shouldn't make a loan to you.  It's just that simple.  When the government steps in to back a loan it pretty much guarantees failure because people who can't afford homes will buy them with bad loans and then foreclose on them - this is exactly what happened in 2008. 

 

Yes our infrastructure is crumbling.  This is where the investments should have been.  It would have created millions of jobs and improved the nation as a whole.  Instead the fat cats have all the money while the average citizen drives on crumbling roads.

 

People can learn a lot of history books. Government officials need to read them.  It's pretty much a how-to guide on what to and what not to do.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:23:41 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

I don't know much about the sherrif, but after reading the local newsrag, that was chock full of witch-hunt style vague accusations and unsubstantiated rumors, I smelled a rat and will probably vote for him because I don't like being bamboozled with hooey.

You have to have your antenna up these days. It's like the petitioners outside libraries. They'll claim they're "concerned citizens" working for "freedom," but if you look into it they're paid hacks, usually working for an insurance company or some other special interest. I don't sign those petitions any more until I go back and research them on the net. Over half the time I'll find they're for what they seem to be against, or against what they seem to be for. Welcome to spin-world.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:39:50 GMT
Our decaying local and national infrastructure

Apache Junction's roads are crumbling and our national infrastructure is collapsing. Despite ideologues it is sometimes necessary to have taxes and public works.

During the Depression the WPA built the massive and now decaying infrastructure we've used for eighty years - roads, schools, dams, sewers, parks, bridges, electrical systems, etc. It paid for itself a thousand times over, trained and hired millions of men, and helped us out of the Depression. Plain and simple, it worked.

So instead of doing what worked we threw billions at the banks after the collapse of 2008. But instead of doing the right thing, the banks just kept on money-gambling at the Big Casino instead of loaning to small business, our real job engine, or doing mortgage workouts, as promised.

The real question is why we did something untried that obviously didn't work, instead of doing something that had historically proven itself.

Answer that question and you'll realize who Really runs America.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:33:04 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

AZSTVsun..  Yes, for posting the youtube video.  Very good representation of the candidates - easy to compare and contrast.

Yes, Jack has that baggage and his stance on intercepting drug runners and human smugglers stinks.  He says "let the fed do it" even though he knows the feds AREN'T doing it.   Any cop that is willing to turn a blind eye to that activity is more suited to Constable.

Millsaps is not a real choice for this job.  He is more of a "community organizer" than a serious law enforcement professional.  I listened to several of his 'talks' on EEOC and he is clearly in the victimization game.   Anyone who is still playing the race card at this late date won't get my support.  

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:49:54 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Christa- thanks for the pic :)

Ken- vid of the performances?

No longer voting for Jack and today is the day....why can't we have someone better that has  common sense and no dirty laundry? 

http://www.trivalleycentral.com/articles/2012/07/12/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/doc4fff02d2b9c1d614513159.txt

 

Hopefully Glenn makes it as the Democrat ----swinging his way now lol Tongue out

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:33:14 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Thanks for posting that video, AZSTVs....   

Pretty funny... it seems obvious to me that Babeu's closing statement was written with the assumption that his competitors were going to bring up details of the salacious allegations.  It might have been a good rebuttal, but they all kept to the legitimate points.    The “defense” in his closing statement seemed totally out of context…  he should have been prepared for that and prepared an alternate statement.

Despite that faux pas, I don’t think any of his competitors gained any ground.  A couple of them actually praised him which gave them an air of credibility, but I didn’t hear anything that is likely to change any minds.

Babeu is not a very modest individual, but he does know what the people want.   My guess is that he has a lock on the re-election based on the other candidates' performance tonight.  

Anyone see it differently?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:51:56 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Wink

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 27 Aug 2012 04:59:49 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Watch until the end.  Babeu throws some mud (in fact I didn't see anyone else start it) saying  about 5 of the "people" behind him got fired some more than once, and two filed for bankrupcy.  Any info on who he was talking about besides the canditate from ex Gila River-saw him on the internet.  Last one in his ending address says he promises we will not see him on the internet without clothes (something like that) BUT Babeu did strike first IMO.

I don't know how to do those funny cartoon cut and paste but if I did:

*Insert cat fight picture here

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:37:39 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

For anyone who would like to watch a vid with the hopefulls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sx47vtGhm4

 

Thank you Bryan for your part.  You are awesome!

Currently,  I am leaning towards Jack....if he doesn't make it, I would have no problem voting for Glenn. 

 

Babeu is the reason for the negative attacks.  HE created it, HE made his bed.  Our Sheriffs office deserves to have someone in office that respects the office .  Just my opinion. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 25 Aug 2012 01:01:44 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Partly because it's expected of me, and I hate to disappoint, I'll be voting for our current Sheriff.  The department has improved substantially from a service delivery perspective and I'd like to see that trend continue.   I've read all the allegations and only one of them has any credibility but there is no evidence or unbiased information to support it.   Most of the complaints are from either political opponents or disgruntled (perhaps justifiably so) ex-employees.   For an inexperienced Sheriff, he's done a good job and likely will improve during his next term.

Frankly, I was leaning toward Bearup, but I lost respect from him when he decided to use the same tired attacks on the Sheriff instead of using his time to describe his vision and his strategy for improving public safety.  A candidate for an executive position should take the high road rather than rolling around in the mud.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:02:05 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

Where did you hear that he did NOT preserve those records?  I heard via the PCSO news release that he did make copies and in fact gave some of them to the County Attorney for safekeeping and took pictures of others to verify they were preserved.

I suspect that you don't believe anything on a PCSO news release so I'll provide a quote from a source that you probably trust, the Arizona Republic:  "Gaffney has told The Republic that he deleted the e-mails only after being told they were backed up by the county as part of the 90-day litigation hold."

This story does NOT include any information about whether or not Gaffney made copies himself, though it is hard to imagine that they did not ask that question.   More likely they asked the question, didn't like the answer, so avoided the issue altogether.  My skepticism is based on reading numerous articles from that publisher which are sloppy and slanted.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2012/07/20/20120720babeu-aide-who-deleted-records-wont-be-charged.html

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:52:19 GMT
Letter writer: ‘Do you like the screaming of the jetliners racing over our once peaceful airspace?’

Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Apache Junction/Gold Canyon, East Mesa, Gilbert and Queen Creek/San Tan Valley Independent newspapers. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."

Letter writer: ‘Do you like the screaming of the jetliners racing over our once peaceful airspace?’

Attention Gold Canyon, Mountainbrook Village, all the Superstition and Goldfield foothills and city of Apache Junction: Before you vote, either Republican primary now or full ballot in November, remember this:

Do you like the screaming of the jetliners racing over our once peaceful airspace? How about the deep buzzing of the piston planes? Well, you haven’t heard anything yet; it is going to get much, must worse and more dangerous.

The Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport is growing fast and will triple flights in just a few years, These flights are going right over our homes because Doug Coleman, former mayor of Apache Junction, was fooled into giving away our airspace to the city of Mesa.

The Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport was limited by narrow flight paths and needed wider takeoff and landing patterns, The Mesa politicians did not want to anger their own voters with more plane noise, thereby lowering property values, nor did they want to get into a costly battle such as Sky Harbor International Airport (city of Phoenix) with the city of Tempe. That cost Phoenix a bundle. Instead they duped Doug Coleman into squandering our airspace.

This is not a person who will look out for the wellbeing of our area. I don’t care who you vote for, just not Doug Coleman who has fooled us enough. Each time that airplane roars overhead, just look up and think of Doug Coleman.

Williams Carns

Apache Junction

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:42:41 GMT
HOW TO SPEAK REPUBLICAN

Sealed Spot bloody on 2 cents, nice find! Sealed

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:06:11 GMT
Pinal County Sheriff Elections

Who are you leaning towards and why? Anyone stand out (in a good way) that deserves our vote?

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:54:42 GMT
HOW TO SPEAK REPUBLICAN

How to Speak Republican

By Pete Kotz Thursday, Aug 23 2012

Next week, the Republican Party will convene in Tampa to plot world domination. And

Yes, you badly want in on the ground floor of the next culture war or invasion of a small, preferably Muslim, country. Yet the GOP speaks in an elusive language only its followers understand. With just a few coded words, it's able to mobilize the loyalists — while simultaneously dismissing everyone else as un-American and quite possibly queer.

Rosetta Stone offers no help, for this is a dialect only deciphered with written authorization from Jesus or Goldman Sachs. You worry the march to godliness will go forth without you. You'll be left behind with Rosie O'Donnell and those eco-fairies who bicycle to work.

Yet a recently leaked glossary lays bare the mystery of the Republican tongue. Now you too can speak with the superiority of talk radio hosts and pissed-off old guys who live in mobile-home parks. Enjoy your seat at the right hand of God!

Abortion: Reproductive issue best decided by preachers from rural Georgia who believe babies are conceived by using public restrooms.

American: True patriot who hates all the right things, including but not exclusive to: taxes, un-breaded chicken, California, female sportscasters, the Toyota Prius, people who speak Mexican, BET, free-range vegetables, public radio, Al Sharpton, whales . . .

Apologizing: The treasonous admission that America is not always perfect. Usually committed by people who can't even tastefully match their cowboy boots with their firearms.

Bain Capital: Massachusetts investment firm celebrated for providing investors with huge returns by laying off thousands of workers, cutting healthcare benefits, and shipping jobs to those places where foreigners live. Will serve as the model for U.S. economic recovery once the infidel is smitten.

Barack Hussein Obama: Muslim foreigner illegally elected president to pursue the socialist agenda of Karl Marx, regarded as the least funny brother of the famed comedic troupe.

Bible: Historical novel starring omnipotent being who sentences others to eternal damnation unless they do what he says. Think of Pat Robertson, only with a hillbilly beard and the ability to part seas.

Chick-fil-A: Baptist version of eating kosher. Only sells chickens that have provided a documented history of heterosexuality to a commission of small-town Chamber of Commerce officials.

Christian: GOP delegate who's devoted his life to Jesus, handguns and repealing the Clean Water Act. Will be doing missionary work at Tampa gentlemen's clubs next week. At least that's what he'll tell his wife when the MasterCard bill arrives, LOL!

Christian Persecution: When school board bars teacher from conducting faith-healing sessions in his seventh-grade biology class.

Class Warfare: Indefensible act of pitting America against the wealthy, but perfectly reasonable when mocking moms on welfare so they'll finally learn not to wear spandex with a butt that size.

College: American version of Maoist re-education camp, where liberal professors encourage impressionable youth to enjoy critical thinking, Jäger shots and recreational intercourse.

Constitutional Conservatism: Belief that our founding document should be strictly interpreted — even though it was written by guys who wore wigs and capri pants but were definitely not trannies, since that hadn't even been invented yet.

Corporation: Most evolved species of mammal. Designated by Supreme Court as the legal equivalent to people, only better because it can afford to buy congressmen and box seats at big sporting events.

Entitlement Society: Large corporations who demand public subsidies every time they build a facility, move their headquarters, or threaten to relocate to Botswana or Mississippi. Wait. No. Scratch that.

Environment: Convenient place to dump car batteries and kitchen appliances. While lame-stream media insists on its preservation, studies by the business faculty at Liberty University business faculty prove that beavers actually like swimming in hydrochloric acid because it improves their skin tone.

Evolution: Fraudulent theory that man evolved from ape. Have you ever seen an ape with jugs like Jessica Simpson's?

Feminazis: Ingrate women who use the word "Ewwww!" when Rush Limbaugh tries to buy them a Sex on the Beach at hotel bars in Boca Raton.

Food Stamp President: Did we mention that Obama's a negro? And that he's probably a Muslim?

Founding Fathers: Early visionaries who built a start-up country to escape the tyranny of England. Based on the theory that we could more cost-effectively do our own tyranny.

Free Market: Utopian world where corporations are allowed to conduct business without interference from price fixing, consumer protection, or child labor laws.

Global Warming: Theory shared by 99 percent of the world's scientists that man-made pollution is warming the Earth's atmosphere. Easily discredited by pointing to that one day in February when it was pretty cold.

Gotcha Journalism: Shameful media practice using duplicitous interview tactics — often called "questions" — to get vice presidential candidates to admit they can't read.

Homosexual agenda: Conspiracy co-chaired by Satan and Neil Patrick Harris to convince America's youth to quit football and pursue careers as botanists and defense lawyers.

Illegals: American slang for "Mexican." Also: Anyone skilled in the operation of a leaf blower.

Jesus: Celebrated ancient deity who preached that "the poor should get a damned job already" and that all human suffering could be averted by simply lowering the capital gains tax.

Jews: The guys who killed Christ. Occasionally have the audacity to apply for membership in your country club, despite genetic deficiencies and an inadequate short game.

Job Creators: People who pay half the tax rate you do because God likes them way better. Deserving of further deductions because the gardener is asking for $4.25 an hour

Lamestream Media: All media with the exception of Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, and the non-gay parts of PornHub.com. Note: Gay parts can be mildly educational if your wife's at Bible study and the door is locked.

Liberal Agenda: Set of effete East Coast values written by Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks to destroy the American family by getting our children to suck at math and listen to John Mayer.

Liberal Elite: Immoral foe nearly crushed to extinction by the superiority of the conservative agenda. Membership believed to consist of three elderly men recently expelled from the Newport Yacht club for publicly expressing fond memories of Roosevelt.

Muslims: Swarthy apostates who hate freedom. Believe that blowing up grandmas and blond children will be rewarded with 72 virgins in a jacuzzi suite at the Heaven Best Western. Covert cells mostly operating in Iran and the U.S. State Department.

Obamacare: Theory that all Americans deserve health coverage, when they could just as easily rub some dirt on it.

Radical Feminists: Secret cabal of WNBA season ticketholders seeking to usurp the natural role of men as the boss of everything. Need to shut up and vacuum the living room.

Science: Discredited field of study practiced by sissies at northern liberal arts schools that suck at football.

Second Amendment: The God-given right to carry an assault rifle to Sunday brunch at Applebee's just in case there's a kid wearing a hoodie.

Tea Party: People who hate socialism and government entitlements but live off Social Security and Medicare because stuff like that doesn't really count.

Traditional Marriage: A union between a man and woman who argue over a period of three to seven years, then separate and file unflattering paperwork about each other. Repeat cycle as necessary.

Values Voters: People willing to be economically sodomized as long as we keep bagging on the homos and the wetbacks.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:48:23 GMT
E-Coli in Johnson Utilities water

LOL, that was a marvelous pun.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:57:36 GMT
E-Coli in Johnson Utilities water

Sorry for the crappy link. I'm a newb

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:22:38 GMT
E-Coli in Johnson Utilities water

http://www.santanvalley.com/news/news-stories/local/item/7926-urgent-notice-about-your-water#.UDR5kCPqyBs

 

Panic ensues. Fry's and Walmart sold out of bottles water.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:21:34 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

digg 4.0

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:15:21 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

Exactly! The Documents had not been properly preserved prior to deletion! This is according to the investigation by Pima County Attorneys Office!

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:30:46 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

"Like!"

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 21 Aug 2012 01:48:58 GMT
cronyism is alive n well on the Aj council

I get that Dave Waldron is buddies with the Mayor and Robin Barker .. Still wasn't right imo but the second appointment was completely rediculous .. Gail Evans has never even run for Council .. Ok so she's chummy with, you guessed it the Mayor and Robin Barker but There was NO process, no rhyme or rythym for the second appointment .. NONE .. no interview process, nothing .. Simply a nomination out of the blue by Robin Barker to appoint Gail .. It was supposed to be up for discussion but instead a slick little 1st nomination took place .. I'm curious to know why the Mayor and Robin would do anything, anything to keep me from sserving on the Council .. and for Rick Dietz, WOW I have no comment about his acions in the appointments .. It's time for new leadership .. Leaders who serve the people, not themselves and their buddies ..  It was just wrong ..

There, I said ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:40:53 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

I don't know .. I don't have as much time as I used to ..  This one is boring some how, less colorful, I can't put my finger on it .. It is nice to see intelligent discussions rather than attacks and pissing contests though ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:19:53 GMT
APACHE JUNCTION HIGH SCHOOL - QUALITY ???

What is it that you feel makes it mediocre and what would you like to see improve ..  As an AJUSD employee I can tell you with all the cuts it's become real difficult to retain good employees let alone the best .. When people can make more money at any other district including charter schools whats the incentive for people to stay and how do you we attract "the best" ? ..  Trimming and getting lean is necessary but it gets to the point where it's counter productive and the organization is no longer able to run effectively or efficiently and will reach a breaking point .. AJUSD is there ..  Untill the community decides our kids are worth the investment we are not going to get "the best" of anything for them ..

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:16:24 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

If you want to review the entire IT policy to be sure my quote was in context, here's a link:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CF8QFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fagendasearch.pinalcountyaz.gov%2FAttachmentViewer.aspx%3FAttachmentID%3D4790%26ItemID%3D3481&ei=IeQtUJSFEuaPyAHZr4HoBw&usg=AFQjCNHFdQYWm0UdMsAW7D98msRsn0QMng

or http://tinyurl.com/8kvhzfs

Section 6 B contains the relevant language.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:34:54 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

I can't tell if you are serious or not... I'm going to assume that you are.

The investigation revealed that the content of emails were copied from the email system to other electronic storage mediums and then they were deleted from the email system.  This procedure is dictated by the Pinal County IT policy to free up space in the email system.  So technically the information was deleted from one system, however the information was not destroyed, it was copied to a different system in compliance with the policy.   So why would someone who followed the rules, which included deleting them from the email system, be charged with anything?

Here is the relevant part of the policy:

B. Formal communications transmitted or received through electronic mail shall be either printed, and preserved
in the appropriate department file in permanent paper format pursuant to each department’s records retention
and disposition schedule, or saved to an electronic file and preserved pursuant to each department’s records
retention and disposition schedule and policies. Once communications have been preserved as documents in
the appropriate format, the documents shall be deleted from the electronic mail system.

They couldn't prove intent, because there was no intent.  So what I'm doing is twisting the truth?   ...not my intent.




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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:20:30 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

Mr. James:

Investigation revealed that in fact there had been deleted items! The Prosecutor declined only because could not prove intent on the part of Tim Gaffney! 

So what you are attempting is to twist the truth!

So Yes the Sheriffs Office did in Fact Delete Public Records!

 

Accidently deleted or deleted on Purpose? This is what it came to proving in court. Therefore since intent would have been difficult to prove they declined prosecution!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:19:26 GMT
GO GOP!

David, you sure know how to rain on a parade!   Actually, I agree with your assessment and can understand how many can conclude that there may be little difference between the candidates.   But, I think there is some reason for guarded optimism.   Political candidates basically tell people what they want to hear.   They pander to whatever audience is before them at the moment and this can create the fodder for 'The Daily Show' where candidates can be seen contradicting themselves from one day to the next.  The complaint that "they have no core beliefs" can be validated almost at will.

The sliver of optimism that I see is that Romney has generally been regarded as a "middle of the road" guy.   He could easily shift slightly and be considered either 'somewhat liberal' or 'somewhat conservative'.   When he made the decision to select Ryan as his running mate, he decided to lean 'somewhat conservative' and that is a positive move.   Ryan can articulate conservative principles well and he has the courage to put his vision in a plan for all to view.   Anything that provides voters with a clear choice is better.

If I had to make a guess, the list you provided was written from the Democrat perspective.   A comment like "They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation" ignores the fact that it is much more difficult to create jobs when the numbers are already pretty good. Creating jobs when you start at 9% unemployment is easier than when you start at 4 or 5%.

But the biggest issue is, as corny as it sounds, about the vision of and for America.   In the speech where Obama tends to diminish the importance of business owners/investors (they think they're smart, they think they are hard working), it is clear to see the difference between advocacy for the producers vs. for the "poor".    He doesn't seem to understand that there always has been and always will be a class of people we call 'poor' and they are better off when business is better.   Punishing business will make poor people worse, not better.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:51:09 GMT
GO GOP!

While it is refreshing to finally have SOME adult conversations with respect to unsustainable and unfunded entitlement programs, I find it very difficult to get excited about a Romney/Ryan ticket. One need only look at their voting records to see that while their rhetoric is encouraging, ther walk doesn't align with the talk. Ryan never saw a spending bill he didn't like, and Romney is the Godfather of Obamacare.

It's too bad that political courage is not rewarded. Look at how badly Ron Paul was mocked and ridiculed even though he was the only one proposing actual solutions to Washington's spending addiction and the power system that has been put in place to keep us in ours.

For those who think Obama is the exact opposite of what this country needs, I am with you. But to think that simply changing the executive branch to R/R will change our course is foolhardy in my opinion. Our problems are structural and they are deeply rooted in both parties.

This is a rather shocking list of major issues that neither candidate differ on ( courtesy of Infowars ):

1. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported TARP.

2. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages.

3. Mitt Romney says that Barack Obama’s bailout of the auto industry was actually his idea.

4. Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget.

5. They both believe in big government and they both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.

6. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both fully support the Federal Reserve.

7. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are both on record as saying that the president should not question the “independence” of the Federal Reserve.

8. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.

9. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both felt that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term.

10. Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

11. Both candidates are on record as saying that U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has done a good job.

12. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

13. Mitt Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based upon.

14. Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign contributions.

15. Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.

16. Both candidates want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.

17. Both candidates are “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.

18. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.

19. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the NDAA.

20. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the renewal of the Patriot Act.

21. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are considered to be terrorists.

22. Both candidates believe that American citizens suspected of being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.

23. Barack Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Mitt Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.

24. Both candidates support the practice of “extraordinary rendition”.

25. They both support the job-killing “free trade” agenda of the global elite.

26. They both accuse each other of shipping jobs out of the country and both of them are right.

27. Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.

28. Neither candidate has any military experience.  This is the first time that this has happened in a U.S. election since 1944.

29. Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

30. They both believe in the theory of man-made global warming.

31. Mitt Romney has said that he will support a “cap and trade” carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as longas the entire globe goes along with it.

32. Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.

33. Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their careers.  Mitt Romney’s “conversion” to the pro-life cause has been questioned by many.  In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital’s investment in a company called “Stericycle” that incinerates aborted babies collected from family planning clinics.

34. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the Boy Scout ban on openly gay troop leaders is wrong.

35. They both believe that a “two state solution” will bring lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israel.

36. Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

37. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney also plans to add “signing statements” to bills when he signs them into law.

38. They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.

39. Both candidates believe that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the U.S. Congress.

40. Both candidates plan to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt.

This is the first time since I have been of age to vote that I really just want to submit an empty ballot since 'none of the above' is not on the list.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:51:58 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

hiker51 said: Nice try on the deception of misuse of County Resourses though

Your comment isn't related to the topic; nor is it accurate.   There was no "try" regarding deception of misuse....        This comment is exclusively about the fact that, despite the firestorm of allegations about this issue, an independent investigation revealed that the allegations could not be supported with evidence.    I've seen some others that want dismiss the "exoneration" because the words aren't emphatic enough.   It was bad enought to spread groundless allegations in the first place, but to diminsh the results of the investigation because it doesn't support your preconceived notion is even worse.   It says that you are so wed to your vendetta that even an independent investigation won't sway you.  If the civil case against him for "threatening to deport" his partner is found in his favor (or not filed at all), will that be enough?  If the "Hatch Act" allegation is found to be false, will that be enough?   

I think the problem with a lot of his enemies is that they don't like him for reasons other than the "official" reasons, so they hang their hat on every new political charge that comes down the pike.   Despite allegations to the contrary, I don't have a horse in this race...  I'm just observing this 'high tech lynching' from the sidelines wondering what direction it will take next.  

Some people look quite foolish when they jump on a bandwagon; even though we can see that there are a couple of wheels missing from the wagon and the band stopped playing quite a while ago.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:10:53 GMT
GO GOP III !

If we could ignore the politics and just look at the simple math, it is clear why many have arrived at the conclusion that cutting spending is the way to reduce the debt.   The debt was primarily caused by spending increases (both political parties) and the tax cuts which occurred a decade ago contributed a much smaller part.  The fact of the matter is that the problem can NOT be meaningfully impacted with tax hikes... there is just not enough potential.    The idea that we should have X dollars of tax increase to X dollars of spending cuts ignors the reality.    We got in this condition due to overspending and the only way out is to cut spending.   If we require a 'compromise' on this issue, it is only for the politics, not as part of a real solution.   If we increase the current maximum tax rate of 28% to the percent when Clinton was president 40%, we would barely notice the change in speed which we are travelling to the edge of the fiscal cliff.   On the other hand, if we merely reduced spending to the level in 2008, we would make meaningful progress in a few years.

If you are inclinded to blame the entire problem on the Bushes, Reagan, Nixon... that's fine.  I'll accept that as the way we got here; nows let's talk honestly about how to fix the problem.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:45:55 GMT
GO GOP!

No harm necessarily, but nothing necessarily of value either... depends on the content.  Wouldn't it be more useful to state your opinion on an issue so that others could learn and contribute?   I don't see the relevence in talking about the 'horse race' aspect to an issue.   For example, most of the comments talk about the potential political impact of Ryan picked as Romney's VP because it raises the medicare issue.  Ok, now it's raised.  I'd like to know what you and others think about it rather than how the issue will be used as a political weapon.   We all know what the campaigns say about it.  If they can get us to merely parrot what they say without forming our own opinion, what will change?

Ryan wrote a plan designed to save Medicare for future generations since it is on a path to fiscal bankruptcy.   Knowning that it is a 'hot potato' issue, none of the changes impact anyone currently over 55 years old.   Younger people have two options upon eligibility; use the 'current version' of Medicare or use a different program which involves giving seniors money to buy health insurance in the private market.   That sounds like a reasonable effort  to accomplish the goal to me.  What am I missing?   Any other plans offered for consideration?  

My plea here is to avoid just talking about how one campaign is screwing the other, or how stupid one candidate is vs the other, and help us decide issues for ourselves based on discussion with each other.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:37:11 GMT
GO GOP!

Is there harm in cutting and pasting an expressed thought with which you agree?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:24:27 GMT
GO GOP III !

The GOP’s Will to Fantasy

Jonathan Schell

August 15, 2012  

Mitt Romney’s choice of Paul Ryan as his running mate is the latest episode in a story of conflict within the Republican Party that has many chapters. It has been said a thousand times that, in the long competition between the party’s radical base and its slightly less radical leadership (there are no moderates anywhere in sight in the GOP these days), the choice of the extreme budget-cutter Ryan represents a shift toward the extreme base, and that is certainly true. But it is also a development in another, related story.

The record of the last decade or so suggests that the party these days is animated by two main goals. First, it seeks unchallengeable, absolute power. Its modus operandi for achieving that goal has been to use institutional power—the power of corporations, courts and legislatures—to acquire more institutional power. A recent case is the drive in Republican-dominated states around the country to disenfranchise Democratic-leaning constituencies, such as the poor and minorities, by legislating onerous requirements for voting.

The other goal has been a less familiar one. More and more, Republicans have exhibited a strong desire to take up residence in an imaginary world, an alternate reality—one in which global warming is found to be a fraud perpetrated by the world’s top scientists, Obama turns out to have been born in Kenya and is a Muslim (and a socialist), budgets can be slashed without social pain, firing government employees reduces unemployment, tax cuts for the wealthy replenish government coffers, and so forth. Perhaps it seems odd to identify such an objective as a political goal, but past ideological movements of the left as well as the right offer many examples of the power of such a longing.

Conscientious fact-checkers in the media have rebutted individual items that make up the GOP’s factitious universe. Such efforts are always worthwhile but are likely to backfire with the believers. When ideology takes over from reality, fantasy is not a disadvantage for the believers; it is the source of appeal. The deceptions are then popular not in spite of their untruthfulness but precisely because of it. When the target of the insurrection is not only some hated rival or establishment but the factual universe, with all its unwelcome restrictions and psychological burdens, then the more flagrant the violation of truth, the keener the thrill.

Often, the will to power and the will to fantasy go together. As the totalitarian regimes of the twentieth century discovered, the two can reinforce one another. Such seemed to be the explicit ambition of President George W. Bush’s adviser Karl Rove when, at one giddy moment at the height of the Iraq War, he famously said that the Bush administration had delivered a coup de grâce to nothing less than “the reality-based community,” for “we’re an empire now, and when we act, we create reality.” It was a classic statement of the totalitarian logic of the propaganda artist in power. What better way to win support for propaganda than to abolish the reality that contradicts it? Rove’s boast was premature, but his logic was clear: If we don’t like the real world, we can do away with it.

Those dreams of omnipotence expired in the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan, but the conflict between the will to power and the will to fantasy lived on in new forms. The career of Sarah Palin offers an illustration. She and reality were strangers, as the world saw in her first interviews and subsequently. Her mind was almost a blank slate in that respect, and she showed neither inclination nor aptitude to remedy the lack. To draw her into that world was a kind of cruel mistake. She soon withdrew from it, deciding, after protracted dithering, to stay out of this year’s presidential race and retreat into a world in which her talents and temperament were in fact stellar, the world of myth-making and spin on Fox News. (It is entirely in keeping with this choice that her husband, Todd Palin, has now turned up in NBC’s militarized “reality” show—that is, unreality show—Stars Earn Stripes.)

There was a lesson in Sarah Palin’s withdrawal. For all the triumphs of cash-fueled political manipulation, the sphere of policy and governmental decisions has its dangers for the addicts of unreality. Fantasies can be a path to power, but they can also become a costly self-indulgence.

Palin’s balk at reality’s edge was only one of many twists and turns in the winding path the GOP has followed between power and fantasy. Sometimes it has tipped one way, sometimes the other. Twice—in the presidential primaries of 2008 and those of this year—the party harked for a time to the siren call of the unreal world of the base (Mike Huckabee in 2008; Rick Perry, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich this year) but twice it veered away, entering, with conspicuous distaste, into the arranged marriage with the more sober choice (John McCain in 2008, Romney this year).

But now comes the choice of Ryan. It is a decided, possibly a decisive, tip in the direction of fantasy. To be sure, Ryan is no Sarah Palin. He is a veritable policy wonk.But he is an ideologue. Ideologues can know a lot, and Ryan does, but their knowledge is so tendentiously selected that information, instead of conducting them to what is real, actually armors them against it. Such is the case with Ryan. The media spotlight has been on the renowned Ryan budget, passed twice by the Republican majority in the House, but even more telling is his stand on global warming. He is a major-league denier. All the most prestigious academies of science around the world, including the American National Academy of Sciences, agree that warming is real, man-made and well advanced. Ryan demurs. He has accused climate scientists of a “perversion of the scientific method, where data were manipulated to support a predetermined conclusion,” in order to “intentionally mislead the public on the issue of climate change.” He has voted against any and all measures to remedy the problem. He has suggested that the existence of snow in winter in Wisconsin is evidence against warming, which he has called “a tough sell in our communities, where much of the state is buried under snow.”

As for that budget, it promises to achieve balance while providing no such thing, instead calling for broad tax cuts without specifying spending cuts anywhere near the level that would be needed as offsets to bring the budget into balance. It depends entirely on one of the hoariest of false promises in politics, the free lunch, thereby contributing to what Paul Krugman rightly calls an economic “culture of fraud.”

The GOP base is fired up. But the cost could be high. Even today’s electoral politics may have one foot still remaining in the reality-based community. Ordinary voters may not be a tribe of Diogenes, carrying lamps through the world in search of truth, but they are much less likely to be passionately attached to a long list of fantasies than the GOP fanatics. That this could be so may be a saving grace of American politics in our otherwise spin-stupefied era

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:09:14 GMT
GO GOP!

Ryan will be an asset to the ticket because he understands the problems created by the structural issues with many of the entitlement programs and has put forth a plan to address those issues.   He can also explain to an audience why the plan is necessary and how the benefits will be maintained.   While both the Dems and Repubs acknowledge the problem, there have been no leaders willing to present an actual plan for fear of the political backlash.   The Dems in the Senate haven't produced a budget for years for the same purpose.

It seems rather unfair that so far, political opponents have spent all their time trying to make political hay out of the plan, but they have not put forth ideas of their own.   So if the Dems think that the best strategy is to produce no budget and no proposals to fix problems, we'll have to wait to see how that works.    Most people here seem so tied to their partisanship that I doubt many minds will be won over -- either by a better idea, or even to discuss the underlying issues.

If all we do is cut and paste articles from the left and the right, we just become more entrenched in the party positions and strategies that haven't been serving us very well.   Frankly, I think there is a certain risk in actually discussing the issues since you might realize that your party isn't supporting the solutions you prefer.   What then?    Anyone actually willing to change parties to support a better idea?   ...didn't think so.

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:06:04 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

I know right?  I joined so I that could respond to some of those Jokers!  To bad Bryan Martyn is gone as well - I really like him....

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:34:48 GMT
GO GOP II !

Oh, and those roads, bridges and schools that my business didn't build,,,,,,,,,,,,,,screw you Obama, my tax paying friends built those, not the government!

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:42:11 GMT
GO GOP II !

I too changed from Republican to PND just a few months ago, but my reasons were entirely different.  I detest the closed primaries in Arizona and of course if you want to vote for a party other than the one you are registered to then you must constantly be changing it.  Hence, I went to PND for two reasons and two reasons only, those being that no one can 'profile me' and secondly, now I can request either primary ballot I prefer with no paper work (kind of fun beating them at their own game, which just goes to show how senseless both major parties are with their closed primaries as they actually push people out of their party on paper, now that is STUPID).

As for the health care issue, my biggest beef is that union employees, and other employee with group health insurance, do not have to pay their premiums with after tax dollars.  Talk about tax discrimination!

Schools and keeping children in them.  That is not an issue with the children.  THAT is an ISSUE with lack of PARENTING.  Lower parent involvement in schools (other than finger pointing, how about backing up some discipline, making sure homework is done, etc) than ever before and yet them blame the educators?  That makes as much sense as not showing up for work, putting in an honest days pay and then blaming the employer for you getting fired.

As for Ayn Rand, why would that even be an issue to liberal thinking people?  Liberals are more inclined to be atheists than conservatives and before any of you liberals come to arms over that statement, I am a Republican (at heart) atheist, liberals are more apt to support legalization of maryjane, and they are liberal enough to have a higher degree of support for gay marriages.  Liberals only complain about the Ayn Rand issue because it's supports their anti-Romney/Ryan argument.  So much for liberal tolerance, huh?

As for the medicare issue/Ryan proposal, I believe I read where Bill Clinton thinks Ryan is spot on.  I also heard, from a reliable source, that Harry Reid is full of crap.

At any rate, the average poll showed Obama ahead by 4.0 on Monday and Tuesday am, 3.5 ahead this morning.  It takes two weeks for full impact of the polls and will be interesting the next 11 days to see where the polls settle regarding Ryan as the VP.  It certainly energized the GOP and it seems all the Dems want to talk about is Ayn Rand (remember your tolerance Libers) and a medicare proposal that Bill Clinton thinks 'is the right thing to do'.  Oh, and Paul Ryan is an attorney that has never worked a day in a factory in his life (nor has Obama).

Me, I just might vote for Roseanne Barr, I think it is time for a CHANGE!

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:40:38 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

I think he is probably busy updating his website, it still says he is running in the recall.  Did I miss something?  Oh, and his Spanish link STILL doesn't work.  It looks pretty though.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:21:49 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

Aw, and I was still hoping he would want to do double or nothing.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:01:04 GMT
GO GOP II !

Except for one thing:  I was a lifelong Democrat until just a couple years ago when I changed my registration to "PND".  I have a feeling a lot of other people have left political parties because they (like me) no longer feel like they belong to either one.  I think this election is totally up in the air.  I don't feel like either of the choices for president / vice president are very good.  I like the idea of everyone having access to health care but I don't think anyone really understands the impact the new law will have on those of us who already have insurance and want to keep it, and on the tax structure.  An acquaintance who is a CPA recently remarked that taxpayers better hang on to their wallets.  I gather she has received a lot of material related to changes in the tax code. 

As far as Ayn Rand goes, I think Christians understand that she was an atheist and presented an atheistic philosophy in her novels.  I am not sure that Ryan is all that interested in her philosophies as a model of capitalism at its best.  From a Christian perspective, Rand's ideas are not compatible with Christian principles.  Any Christian who knows what they believe and why they believe it gets that when reading her novels.

I am all for trying to help those who are born with disadvantages, but if we can't even get them to stay in school long enough to learn to read, write and do math, how much more can we do?  The solution to poverty is education and trade skills.  Maybe if we could really understand all the reasons that manufacturing and other manual labor jobs went out of the country, we could do something about bringing them back.  People aren't willing to pay $20 for a plain T-shirt, yet they don't understand why T-shirt manufacturing is not a high-paying job.  Of course, this discussion involves labor costs and costs of living. 

Obama did offend a lot of small business owners with his "You didn't build that..." speech.  I've seen all the arguments in defense of his statement, but they all presume that the business owners do not pay taxes, fees or utility rates like everyone else does, in addition to investing in the business and paying the costs associated with it.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:59:19 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

I think a few had their 'style' hampered as they can't make insulting posts and then come back and 'edit or delete' them.  I think another member is laying low to avoid $5,000 for legal fees.  Then some came only for the 'dirt'.  Perhaps it is better this way, the bullies lost their bully pulpit.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:55:50 GMT
Where Has Everyone Gone?

What is it about this new format that has driven everyone away?

There are a great many local issues we could be chatting about.  Where is everyone?  With the upcoming elections and the potential downtown redevelopment discussions, we should be able to get some exciting discussion going on.  I feel out of touch.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:47:07 GMT
GO GOP II !

A Campaign Out of Balance

WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney’s selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate underscores the central question posed by this campaign: Should cold selfishness become the template for our society, or do we still believe in community?

Romney wanted the election to be seen as a referendum on the success or failure of President Obama’s economic policies. Instead, he has revealed that the campaign is really a choice between two starkly different philosophies. One could be summed up as: “We’re all in this together.” The other: “I’ve got mine.”

This is not about free enterprise and it’s not about personal liberty; those fundamental principles are unquestioned. But for at least the past 100 years, we have understood capitalism and freedom to exist within a larger context — a complicated, real-world, human context. Some people begin life at a disadvantage, and it’s in the national interest to open doors of opportunity for them. Some people make mistakes, and it’s in the national interest to create second chances. Some people are too young, too old or too infirm to care for themselves, and it’s in the national interest to secure their welfare.

This sense of the balance between individualism and community fueled the American Century. Romney and Ryan apparently don’t believe in it.

It is well known that Ryan, at least for most of his career, has been enamored of the ideas of Ayn Rand, the novelist — “Atlas Shrugged,” “The Fountainhead” — whose interminable books touted self-interest as the highest, noblest human calling and equated capitalist success with moral virtue. Ryan now disavows Rand’s worldview, primarily because she was an atheist, but he lavishly praised her ideas as recently as 2009.

What about Romney? While he has never pledged allegiance to the Cult of Rand, his view of society seems basically the same.

At least three times in recent days, as part of his response to President Obama’s “You didn’t build that” peroration, Romney has told campaign audiences variations on the following: “When a young person makes the honor roll, I know he took a school bus to get to the school, but I don’t give the bus driver credit for the honor roll.”

When he delivered that line in Manassas, Va., on Saturday with Ryan in tow, Romney drew wild applause. He went on to say that a person who gets a promotion and raise at work, and who commutes to the office by car, doesn’t owe anything to the clerk at the motor vehicles department who processes driver’s licenses.

What I hear Romney saying, and I suspect many others will also hear, is that the little people don’t contribute and don’t count.

I don’t know if Romney’s sons ever rode the bus to school. I do know that for most parents, it matters greatly who picks up their children in the morning and drops them off in the afternoon.

It may not be the driver’s job to help with algebra homework, but he or she bears enormous responsibility for safely handling the most precious cargo imaginable. A good bus driver gets to know the children, maintains order and discipline, deals with harassment and bullying. Romney may not realize it, but a good driver plays an important role in ensuring a child’s physical and emotional well-being — and may, in fact, be the first adult to whom the child proudly displays a report card with all A’s.

School bus drivers don’t make a lot of money. Nor, for that matter, do the clerks who help keep unqualified drivers and unsafe vehicles off the streets. But these workers are not mere cogs in a machine designed to service those who make more money. They are part of a community.

The same is true of teachers, police officers, firefighters and others whom Romney and Ryan dismiss as minions of “big government” rather than public servants.

And what do the Republicans offer their supposed heroes, the entrepreneurs who start small businesses? The few who succeed wildly would be rewarded with tax cuts so huge that they, like Romney, might one day have a dressage horse competing in the Olympics. The majority who just manage to scrape by — or whose businesses fail — could look forward to only as much health care in their senior years as they are able to afford, and not one bit more.

This is a campaign Democrats should relish. The United States became the world’s dominant economic, political and military power by recognizing that we are all in this together. School bus drivers, too.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:17:59 GMT
GO GOP!

Mon Aug 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM PDT

Congressional Democrats' Friday-night happy dance

by kos

U.S. Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI) speaks after being introduced by Republican U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney as his vice-presidential running mate during a campaign event at the retired battleship USS Wisconsin in Norfolk, Virginia &nbsp;August 11, 2012. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton
Godsend.
Conservatives are thrilled at the RYAN-(romney) ticket because they went and showed Mitt Romney who was boss.

The Romney campaign is thrilled at the Paul Ryan pick because now they'll win the conservative vote.

Liberals are thrilled at their ticket because now we'll win the November vote.

But none of the above are as happy as the people in charge of getting Democrats elected to the House and Senate. Mitt Romney's Friday-night news dump had them dancing in the aisles.

Dem operative: "We've spent 18 months trying to make House races about their plan for Medicare and Mitt Romney just did it for us overnight"
@mpoindc via Twitter for Android
 
Rep. Steve Israel (N.Y.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, described Romney selection of a Ryan as a dream come true for House Democrats. Israel says the move allows Democrats to pound the GOP proposed changes to Medicare and Medicaid – issues where his party has traditionally had an advantage over Republicans – rather than the state of the U.S. economy.

“I was shocked,” Israel said of the Ryan announcement. “I was secretly hoping they would pick Ryan. With all the polling on his budget, I didn’t think they would make my hopes come true."

No shit. And all of this from a GOP that claimed that jobs, jobs, jobs was the only thing that mattered. Think about it—Democrats have spent the last year trying to turn Paul Ryan into a household name so they could wrap his budget around the neck of every Republican who voted for it. But outside of political circles, Ryan remained largely unknown.

Yet here comes the bumbling Romney campaign, panicked by poll numbers and a conservative base agitating for Palin II, and what does it do? It single-handedly delivered to congressional Democrats what they would've had to spend more millions than they have to do—nationalize Paul Ryan.

Democrats have already won a pair of House special elections in tough turf by focusing on the Ryan efforts to destroy Medicare.

Even before Mitt Romney made Ryan his running mate, the Medicare attack had had successful try-outs, resulting in the upset win of Democratic Rep. Kathy Hochul in a special election in Western New York in 2011 and this year in the special race in Arizona to fill the seat vacated by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
This election will now be fought on the same turf as Hochul's race, which delivered to Democrats a seat in a region that had gone Democratic only three times in the last century, the last time over 40 years ago. In fact, there were nearly 100 GOP-held seats (pre-redistricting) more Democratic than Hochul's.
The reality is that Ryan is now every Republicans’ running mate whether they like it or not, forcing GOP candidates who would just as soon run from the debate over senior citizen entitlements to embrace the third rail of American politics like never before.

One GOP insider lamented that party leaders “have spent the last year” trying to take Medicare off the political front burner, but the Ryan pick “puts it all back out there now.”

By moving right with Ryan, Romney didn't just seal his own fate this November, he didn't just boost Democratic chances of holding the Senate, but he's officially put the House in play.
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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 14 Aug 2012 03:28:11 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

Yes the information was on ABC 15 aquired from the Solicator Generals Office and the investigation was on going!

The FOIA was to Tim Gaffney which he is the one that refered it to the IT department. So according to you since all these documents have been found, then Rebekah Sanders at the Az. Republic should have them now!

The IT department would have given them to Gaffney for redaction purposes prior to release! So he is still not off the hook.

Nice try on the deception of misuse of County Resourses though.

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editor@din.us1.dti Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:45:29 GMT
Mountain Shadows Redevelopment

I doubt that anyone from the PV Town Council will see your post in the East Valley section. Maybe you should post it in the North Valley?

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 12 Aug 2012 21:49:58 GMT
Mountain Shadows Redevelopment

Based on the article on Mountain Shadows August 11th, it appears the plan is more of a high density residential development than a resort redevelopment.  Under the new SUP process the developer could do the residential and never get around to building the hotel component.  Then we might wind up with a "California" high density residential project in the middle of Paradise Valley. I hope the Town Council sees this.



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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:30:07 GMT
Pinal County Supervisor Elections

Are you kidding me?  Acton obviously has no idea how government works and how big projects like Hunt Hwy get done.  Projects like this take years to plan, design, acquire land, relocate utilities, etc. Trust me, I want Hunt Hwy done as bad as anyone else, but a new supervisor won't be able to make anything happen faster. Acton won't get my vote, that's for sure. False promises and lies - and he isn't even in office yet. 

 

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:08:15 GMT
SAD TO SEE....

I LOVE the Antique Mall...its awesome.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:50:07 GMT
SAD TO SEE....

Or at least compose that collateral before happy hour!

But the ideas are solid...

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:51:09 GMT
SAD TO SEE....

Just a helpfull suggestion squirrel, you might want to consider having someone proof your sales collateral :-)

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 05 Aug 2012 00:24:30 GMT
SAD TO SEE....

I think you are on to something here squirrel. Invest your money in an art store and coffee shop in AJ. Be the first and make boat loads of money with your great ideas!  Without a doubt you are a visionary and should reap the rewards.  Let us all know where and when these great new venues are opening. Best of luck!

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editor@din.us1.dti Sun, 05 Aug 2012 00:18:05 GMT
SAD TO SEE....

sad to see in other cities events happening left n right and in Aj DEAD HORSE NOTHING EVER HAPPENDS.. see the home n garden show is at the pxh convention centre n in Aj... DUST HEAT NOTHING why the council other than mr serdy HAS ABSOLUTLY NO VISION or thought as to WHAT CAN spur this down economy BACK UP at least in AJ.. JOBS REVENUE CLIUES .. no they are over concerned for ALUMINUM sheds IS IT WESTERN ENOUGH CRAP..  instead of HOW can we bring in REVENUE JOBS EVENTS to SPUR the local mom n pop ECONOMIES.. n HELP aj go further.. 

 

Seems PHX has it going well over 250 grand will pass thru that area and raise REVENUE n bring in some heffty cash for local economy.. here in AJ its as DRY as a desert hole. NO ONE excapt mr serdy on the council HAS A RATS ASS CLUE about HOW to bring things in..  TIME TO RECALL TIME TO GET NEW ELECTED FOLKS not WALPITES n rehashed OLD councdilk members since inslacao barker wilson cant APPOINT anyone NEW.  guess well have to do it OUR selves..  what do you want in Aj to come to AJ to BE$ in AJ... 1- JOBS/2-revenue creat4d by NEW RESOURCES.3 EVENT ACTIVITY to draw in DOLLARS to local merchants and city revenue.. THSI IS THE MAIN FACTOR that th4 councilk except for jeff serdy DOESNT GET nor wants.. BARKER needs to hit the retirement home . Aj cant not EXIST in a DRY OLD MODLY WERSTERN ENOUGH CRAP AJ must be REVITALIZED RENEWD  REGENERATED not wiht the current OLD cows on the council n 1 WALPITE smitherson YOU SPALLED AJ in the faqce YOU WILL NOT RETURN

 

 wheres the arts dist in aj?? oh we have the superstition art SNOBS who dictate whose art IS western enough to be shown.. .. Aj has NO first fridays. NO down town art galleries. coffee houses  NADA why ITS NOT WESTERN EHOUGH CRAP spouted by BARKER.. this old bag hasnt a clue the year is 2012 not 1812.  the west DIED out in 1895... AJ cant afford to ROT in the state its in..  WE NEED NEW OFFICIALS N FIRE OLD COWS who are not willing to WORK wiht the voters n REVITALIZE AJ..   term limits are needede YES i agree..  Aj can not afford to be a DEAD HORSE in the ground that every city poike a stick at it laughing while doing it.. WE... need events held in Aj  WE need EVENTS HELD HERE IN AJ to bring in dollars many local merchants are about to go BUST leave AJ no one CARES o more its all about EGOS n ME ME ME ME ME..BS lies n EMPTY WORDS a FAKE SMILE for the camera NO AJ needs LEADERS MOVERS N SHAKERS NOT OLD COWS READY FOR THE CLUE FACTORY.. Aj deserves far better .. All events happening in other cities CAN BE HELD IN AJ... HAS anyone aside from me HAS A VISION??????? for AJ?..  IF we do NOTHING we may as well move to san tan valley at least THEY want modern not western enough BS from BARKER...

Arts. event happenings VISION  ARTS.  Aj city council needs NEW BLOOD NEW LIFE VISION not OLD TIMERS REHASHED OVER N OVER N OVER N OVER.. c'mon candidates WAKE UP/of not I SHALL RUN FOR MAYOR n believe me it will NEVER BE 1812 EVER... it will be 2012.. MODERN NOT WESTERN CRAP AJ needs  regeneration NOW... phx mesa tempe chandler gilbert etc are DOING WHAT THEY CAN to raise revenue JOBS and help the local economy in AJ the council could CARE LESS unless.. and IT SHOWS........... WE NEED EVENTS HERE TOO! in AJ GOT THAT COUNCIL...

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:45:49 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

Ken,

 

Don't worry about it.  Chad isn't on the chopping block this year....always nice to hear from our elected officials no matter what.  Would like to know who Chad is rooting for.  Hope you had a good event Chad.

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editor@din.us1.dti Sat, 04 Aug 2012 03:32:20 GMT
Pinal County Supervisor Elections

She worked for boo boo, had to quit to run I think, not sure. Anyway, she boo boo and Voyles are all running together to bring sweeping changes to Pinal County. Full body shiver!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:45:17 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

Well said, GCR...  ROFL?     Obviously I suck at this game.

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:12:06 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

I didn't see him lobbying for money for our teachers!

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 03 Aug 2012 06:58:07 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

I didn't get the joke that caused GCR to ROFL, but I guess you guys are saying that you don't hear much from Chad except at election time?   I hadn't heard much from him either but I became interested when I saw his position on PC wages recently...  I think he was right on that one even though politically it wasn't a popular move.

I found regular updates posted on his facebook account (http://www.facebook.com/chad.roche.71) in cause you are really interested in activity of the County Clerk's office.... (really?)

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 03 Aug 2012 05:02:11 GMT
Pinal County Supervisor Elections

Cheryl Chase has the whole front page of Johnson Utilities paper that comes in our water bill.

Two questions for Cheryl:

1.  What are you doing currently...do you hold a position within Pinal County?

2.  Did you pay for the front page of JU's paper or did we?

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editor@din.us1.dti Fri, 03 Aug 2012 02:45:11 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

Well said Az, rofl

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:26:42 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

Good to hear from you Chad....haven't seen anything on here from you since .....well since probably last election time.....

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:50:17 GMT
A Safety Message from the City of Mesa's Energy Resources Department...

August 11 (8/11) is a day recognized nationally to remind everyone that placing a free call to 811 before digging is not only the law, it avoids outages and expenses, and is an important part of overall safety. 

 Are you planning a digging or excavating project?  If you are, here are two things you need to know...

  • Contact the Arizona Blue Stake Center two days prior to starting your project to have underground utilities located and marked.  Calling them is easy and FREE, simply dial 811.  

 You are not officially ready to dig until all utilities have been properly located and marked.  Use caution when digging, always dig around the marks, not on them.  Some utility lines may be buried at a shallow depth and an unintended shovel thrust can bring potentially dangerous and/or costly consequences.

If you damage a natural gas pipeline while digging/excavating, call us immediately at 480-644-4277 (GASS) and 911.

For more information on digging safely, or to learn more about electrical and natural gas safety, visit www.mesaaz.gov/energy.

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:58:33 GMT
Drop by - Check out the Communication Fair! How the Clerk wants to save money, keep talent, jettison waste!

COMMUNICATION FAIR AT THE COSC  Laughing Cool

 

PINAL COUNTY, AZ (8/1/2012) – An Adventure in Lean Six Sigma (LSS) is coming to the COSC on Friday, August 3 and the Clerk of the Superior Court, Chad Roche, extends a personal invitation to everyone in Pinal County to come and experience the Communication Fair. It will be an immersive experience with things to see and do. The Fair will explain the extremely successful methodology of LSS and how it will be used in government.

The theme of the Communications Fair is Adventure and will be held in the Jury Assembly room, Courthouse building, 971 N. Jason Lopez Circle in Florence from 9:00 a.m. until 4:30 p.m. on August 3. “This is going to be a fun way for the public to learn how our office is going to save a great deal of Pinal County taxpayers’ hard-earned money,” said Clerk Roche. “It’s a whole mindset,” he continued, “and a cultural shift to one of empowerment and efficiency.” Research has shown that in work environments where LSS was successfully implemented, employee morale soars, and errors are massively reduced.

 There will be “stations” where various components of LSS will be explained, and a special COSC/LSS “Adventure Passport” will be given to people as they enter the Fair.  “What is great about a Communication Fair is that it’s dynamic, not static,” stated Dyane Ceal, Director of Lean Six Sigma operations at COSC. “Attendees can collect various stamps on their Passports, and those who collect all stamps will be eligible for a prize drawing,” she concluded. This is a drop-in continuously running fair and can be experienced in about a half an hour.

The Office of the Clerk of the Superior Court is committed to providing quality customer service, ensuring the integrity and access to court records by supporting the Judicial process through efficient Records Management, Financial Administration and Jury Service.

The Florence office of the Clerk of the Superior Court is located at 971 N. Jason Lopez Circle in the Pinal County Justice Complex, Building A. It is open to serve the public on weekdays from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. Satellite offices are located in Apache Junction and Casa Grande. The office of the COSC can be reached at 520-866-5300.

 

To learn more about the Office of the Clerk of the Superior Court in Pinal County, please visit http://pinalcountyaz.gov/Departments/JudicialBranch/ClerkoftheSuperiorCourt/Pages/AboutUs.aspx

Follow Chad Roche on Facebook at  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000208978711 and the Clerk’s page is located at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pinal-County-Clerk-of-the-Superior-Court/126817117383092 as the Pinal County Clerk of the Superior Court. You can follow Chad on Twitter at @ChadRoche1

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editor@din.us1.dti Thu, 02 Aug 2012 02:54:00 GMT
Whatever Happened To Apache Recycling?

OK, I am getting my recycling companies mixed up.  I hope it's not a bad sign.  It's Mountain View Recycling that I am looking for.  Apache Recycling was the place on Meridian where you take the items.  They have apparently been sold too but they are still there.  MOUNTAIN VIEW Recycling. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 01 Aug 2012 18:11:17 GMT
Whatever Happened To Apache Recycling?

Thanks to both of you - maybe we can all make our way back to this forum once we get used to it.  Judging from the number of registered users, I would say we're all still lurking here.

I wonder if this means that I now have a free trash can.  You would think that whatever company bought Apache Recycling would want all these things back. 

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:53:43 GMT
Whatever Happened To Apache Recycling?

Yes I am glad your back too! I don't know anything about recycling either. I am tired of the neighbors barrel being blown over and scattering their garbage and recycling all over our neighborhood because they are gone out of town on weekends.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:44:07 GMT
Whatever Happened To Apache Recycling?

Mrs K, I know nothing about recycling, but how the heck are you?

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:53:44 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

hiker,

Can you find some reading material on that about Cheryl Chase and put it into the thread regarding Pinal County Supervisor Elections--that would be good to know how County money was spent.

 

Thanks

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:53:30 GMT
Whatever Happened To Apache Recycling?

I heard they were purchased by another company.  However, months have gone by and I have a full can of recyclable material sitting in my driveway, and I want it gone.  I signed up for it thinking I was doing a good thing, and now it looks like it's all been for naught.

This forum is not nearly as active as the old one, so I am hoping that someone who knows something will see this and respond.

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editor@din.us1.dti Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:48:48 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

 Why would I debate further on a point which has been decided by people who had the best information about the allegation?

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:53:26 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

You talk about conjecture, where does it say they were exonerated? Distruction of public records bogus? Public records were destroyed from the Gaffney computer were they not? And speaking of bogus, your feeble attempts to turn the conversation to the ACLU, Behring and others is the same type of diversionary tactic that boo boo and his minions often use. Why talk about the facts when you can talk about other things.

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:23:37 GMT
Investigation Reveals Sheriff's Office Did Not Destroy Public Records

Al Gore Sex Abuse Allegations Lack Sufficient Evidence, Say Portland Police

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editor@din.us1.dti Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:13:43 GMT